Simfederation E145

According to this post on the internet, the ERJ-145 has been released?
Anyone got it ?

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It’s not the FlightFX one.

Probably worth a look at the developers reviews.

I’ll wait for FlightFX (even if it is marketplace only..).

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Bruh that post says Sim Federation releases ERJ145…not FlightFX lol

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These posts were moved out of FlightFX’s thread into it’s own thread.

SImFederation already released a Phenom 300 and a Challenger 350, both were abysmally bad. So I think this is just another one of those very low quality products that might be ok for some people.

I will wait for the FlightFX version of course.

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:sweat_smile::rofl: sorry guys i didnt know there was another ERJ-145 developer sounds like a miss then :sweat_smile:

This one is most likely abysmally bad, which means it’ll most likely be in the MSFS marketplace ASAP.

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Warning - early adopters are leaving reviews on Simmarket and they are NOT happy. Many non-functional aspects to the aircraft, poor sounds, poor flight dynamics. Sounds like just a step above a visual model that can get airborne, but that’s about it.

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Looking at the screenshots, it looks like a default Proline 21 setup with little change. These guys are taking huge shortcuts while charging what seems like a premium for just visuals. I`m staying away from devs like this.

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Maybe add, “A WARNING” to your heading! :wink:

Shame on you, Microsoft/Asobo, you guys are proud of yourselves to brag about quality control. How come you guys allow a terrible developer like SimFederation to release planes inside your platform ??? Where is your quality control on that?? This is a terrible developer don’t buy anything from them

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@alexbr72
Microsoft no longer tests products for the Marketplace. Jorg Neumann discussed this in the May Developer livestream:

It is up to individual vendors to do a good job testing their own products and ensuring a high standard of quality.

This is no different than other on-line stores. For example, Amazon, Best Buy, etc. do not run quality control checks on software they sell on their webstores.

This change can be seen in the June 5th 2025 Development Update. Note that “In MS Testing” is now zero for all categories:

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All,

MS/Asobo care about core functionality, as in, does this scenery, aircraft, or whatever else basically function in the simulator, or does it crash the sim, are there missing textures, or does it adversely impact core features in any way. MS/Asobo are not and CANNOT be the arbiters of what constitutes quality.

MSFS is a global product, and those that care about higher fidelity, and those that also are active in online communities about MSFS are a niche within a niche. I suspect there are numerous users who go into the program, check out what looks good on the marketplace, buy it, and are content with it. Different target markets.

The negative reviews by those who appreciate higher fidelity are appreciated, but it’s all a matter of opinion. If MS/Asobo judge fidelity, then where’s the bar? To some, that bar, if it existed, would result in maybe a half dozen aircraft in the marketplace at most, and maybe another dozen scenery products.

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To be fair, as much as we don’t like the quality of some of the addons on the marketplace, the current system is still the best way to do it, and it lets the consumers decide.

I’d much rather have that than leaving it up to the storefronts to decide what I can and can’t purchase.

That’s the reason threads like this exist, so we can warn others about the addon and leave it up to the consumers to make a choice.

The marketplace ingest process is already slow, could you imagine how much slower it would be if everything had to be tested for quality instead of leaving it up to the consumers to make the choice?

I feel this way about any storefront, let me vote with my wallet.

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It is all well and good voting with your wallet. Once you have spent your cash with a dud product, the developer is smiling, MS/Asobo are smiling - YOU are not!
We see so many times on these forums folk ask developers again and again to fix - eg conditioner binds, VNAV etc and nothing happens.
There does need to be some quality control at some point prior to letting a product into a market or some aftermarket quality control where the developer has a responsibility to fix it. Even if MS/Asobo put in a clause that that entitles them to email the developer to advise them of an issue and to fix it. That is a painless and simple method of monitoring these forums to improve quality.
If you walk into a shop you can see quality, with a pixel product you have no assurance unless some very annoyed, cashless purchaser starts a blog because they are P… off.

At the very least, MS/Asobo should have the responsibility to assure that the plane is at least functional enough for its purpose - If its GA, the posted specs should be attainable for a pilot, if it is airliners those should be able to do all functions like ILS approaches, lnav and vnav autopilot functions.
I don’t care whether the MFD marker is a dot or an airplane or if a switch is 1cm out of place - I want a plane that functionally works from A to B as it is supposed to.

Please, this is news to you? Look at the long string of Mscenery releases - quality has never been part of the equation for in-game releases

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My Personal Comment & Observation
@Pilotfirst9999

Not a perfect solution, but rentals may partially alleviate this once fully implemented:

$2.99 (or whatever the price is in the user’s local currency) is, IMO, a reasonable way to “try before you buy”. If the product is a dud, then you are out by approximately the cost of a cup of coffee (or less).

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Trial system is very popular in DCS where the cost of aircraft is higher, but the trial is free

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Thanks for the info, I did know about this but how many folk have to buy cups of coffee before it is realised a product or developer is bad?

It would be so much easier to advise developers that Asobo had the right contractually to email them back and ask them to fix something ASAP or the product is removed. They monitor these forums anyway - such a simple solution at less than the cost of a cup of coffee or indeed 10 coffee’s!

That way the customer has the reassurance, the developer knows the boundaries of functionality and these forums stop becoming a place to air grievances that are seemingly hardly ever addressed.

TBH I have read that aircraft developed for 2020 still have problems that have existed since almost the start of 2020 - that can’t be right. Is this what to expect from 2024? No retailer with pride in their company would allow sub standard products on the shelf after so many complaints.