I’d say all your GPU candidates so far are overpowered for 5600X for MSFS at resolutions up to and including 1440p.
Can you develop it? Which cards do you think will be appropriate?
A GPU is never “overpowered”, as there are possibilities to use the overhead with appropriate settings. Turn up render scale to the max and even a RTX 3090Ti can be brought to its knees in 1440p.
In my case, I found the sweet spot for my 6900XT in MSFS with render scale at 130 and everything on ultra, resulting in a GPU-limited situation in 90% of the cases (outside photogrammetry areas). Like this, I was also able to reduce CPU dependent stuttering to an acceptable minimum (not fully eliminated though) and still getting reasonable FPS.
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I mean that you’ll almost certainly be CPU bound vast majority of time with any of those cards at the default Ultra graphics settings (normal QHD screen). I have 12400f (approximately equivalent CPU) and my 3070 Ti is just chilling along most of the time. 3060 Ti, or if you must have more memory then it’s probably 6700XT.
This is for MSFS specifically. Most other games would be very GPU bound even at 1440p and going for more powerful card (even 3080) starts making sense (particularly if you want to use ray tracing).
You might also want to go for slightly more powerful GPU to future proof for possible upcoming developments in MSFS (e.g. DX 12 might take some load off the CPU, but it might also not).
Sure, but I don’t think render scaling upwards adds enough graphical fidelity to actually justify investment in more powerful GPU.
Render scaling seems to have almost zero effect on external views or on scenery from cockpit view.
What high render scaling does do is make steam gauges crisper and more readable and any text on cockpit labels crisper and more readable - without zooming in.
Whether crisper steam gauges without having to zoom in warrants spending several thousand dollars on a 3090 or the soon to be released 4090 is rather debatable.
One more question.. is 650W PSU (Seasonic GX-650 80Plus Gold) good for Ryzen 5 5600X with 6800XT / RTX3080 ?
The product page of the card you want should tell you what it demands. But the minimum is 750W or more likely 850W with those cards. Of the cards you mentioned, only the non-XT 6800 is good with 650W.
I run a 6800XT with an i7-10700 non-K and an EVGA 650W 80+ Gold with no issues. I think the highest peak power I’ve seen on my 6800XT was approximately 275W. The 10700 maxes around 65W. That leaves around 300W for everything else.
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Word is the new RTX4090 is going to have a default power draw of 600 watts and that is default WITHOUT overclocking it.
(Bearing in mind aftermarket cards like the current top of the line ROG Strix RTX 3090, can hit up to 480W and the RTX4090 allegedly has double the performance of the RTX3090 )
My new build runs a 5800X3D paired with a 10GB 3080. PCPartPicker estimated the power requirement at 559W so I went with a 1K PSU. That puts the draw under load right in the sweet spot for efficiency. I don’t think the PSU fan has ever run. This is far and away the coolest (no pun intended) build I’ve ever done, and one of the quietest.
The case is a bequiet! Pure Base 500DX, and I have all five positions populated with 140mm fans. The fans that came with the case run quieter than the Noctua fans I installed: very impressive!
I’d say don’t skimp on the PSU. I got a Corsair RMx unit and I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
I’m on an EVGA 1080Ti right now, too, and pondering upgrade options (probably the complete system) for later this year, too.
I found it all depends if I run on pancake screen (3440x1440) or VR (Reverb1). I’m nearly always maintread (CPU) limited if running on the pancake screen, but with fps close to 30 and more there wouldn’t be a real need to upgrade right now. The 1080Ti actually is a wonderful card and served me for many years in several simulators.
But now comes the catch: I find me nearly exclusively running under VR during the last months. Here I’m always GPU limited whichever sensible Antialiasing settings I choose. I’m on 100% OpenXR, 100% FSR OpenXR Toolkit, 75 % TAA in Game right now and this works - sort of - but I wouldn’t say I am really happy with the Antialiasing.
Thus, if going for a new GPU, I would suggest keeping in mind if you ever might switch to VR.
Hi,
Do you think the Nvidia 4090 rtx can support 3 screen Odyssey G9 ?
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Odyssey GP only has about 10% more pixels than a normal 4K screen it is just short and very wide.
You will get similar performance to using 3 x 4k monitors.
Note that:
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the rtx 4090 is not out yet so as far as I know no-one has tested one in MSFS.
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your biggest issue will be that MSFS sort of sux at multi monitor support currently
This topic prompted me to sign up to the forum. I’m new to FS2020 but not to Flight SImulators.
I have Radeon Pro W6800X with 32GB and a Intel W3245 3.2ghz 16 core processor, 1400w PSU and more RAM than FS will ever need. It runs Windows 11 Pro for Workstations and is connected to a 4K screen.
With the SU10 I can usually crank up all the detail to the highest settings and see steady 30fps.
The majority of the time FS is suggesting it is GPU limited. For other non FS uses I’m considering putting in a second W6800X 32GB and using the Infinity Fabric Link they come with to connect the two. Would FS get any benefit from that?
I’ve done a lot of reading here already and opinions seem to vary.
I am not sure a Xeon and dual workstation class graphics cards is the way to go. These workstation/server class CPU’s and GPU’s are not optimised for gaming on just a few threads. They have advantages (like one of my servers at work is currently sitting on 1.5TB of ram and can take up to 6TB) but they are generally advantages in areas you do not need when gaming.
If you have a second W6800X sitting about (which is possible I have half a dozen tesla’s on the shelf in my office at work) just try it.
However if you are talking about buying another W6800X workstation card I would rethink that, you could most likely get one of the new RTX4090 for about the same money and get far better performance than dual W6800X.
In fact a mid -range PC with say a 12th gen i7 and an RTX 3080 is going to likely outperform any W6800X/W3245 combination even with dual GPU.
I must have been doing something wrong before, now it’s running at steady 40-45fps which is very, very nice, even over cities.
I’m unsure how I’d go powering the RTX4090 - but it’s definitely interesting for PC side. I will keep a watch on it.
I think the slots where my W6800X go can support 500w cards, there are also separate power sockets on the mainboard but currently they are not needed with W6800X or even the Duo version. The machine is a Mac Pro 2019 by the way. Windows and FS2020 on a NVME 1TB drive running on a PCI-E x16 slot.
ah, makes sense.
Mac workstation class machines absolutely kick butt when running Mac software on a MAC OS as everything is optimised to work together - but running Windows apps, especially with non standard devices, can be a bit of a lucky dip.
Good Day All,
I have a question regarding graphics card.
My current setup is
AMD Ryzen 5 5500
GTX 560 Ti
16gb Ram
I wanted to upgrade the GPU to a RTX 3050 as it is within my upgrade budget. Would I be able to run MSFS 2020 in high settings without the lag I am currently experiencing with GTX 560 ti
Seems likely you to me that you will get OK frame rates ( maybe 30 to 40 fps ??? ) as the CPU is fine the Ram is fine and the rtx 3050 is quite acceptable.
Thanks so much appreciate it.