I find in greenland nordics update in beta when setup snow coverage in selected mode weather preset snow and set it to less snow depth you get better result than with live weather .
I think that snow depth in live weather is a bit to extreme setting, but i do like the texturing of the snow.
Since this topic is in beta live weather section i like the lightning effects in the nordics and greenland
for it really light up the enviroment properly done, well done i would say to the team
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Norwegian fjords does not ice over. You may find a little bit in particularly brackish waters in the very innermost corners, but those are rare and very much the exception. Having any icy salt water in Norway, except for on Svalbard, is just silly and massively ruins the experience of flying here in winter for a lot of people.
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I was expecting that the frozen ocean issue would be addressed with this update, but it doesnât seem to beâŠnot entirely anyway. I think itâs improved, as not as much of the ocean is covered in ice adjacent to snow covered land, but narrow waterways are still mostly completely covered. I assume this is just do to the resolution of snow coverage areas. Could we just have an option to disable snow on water if it canât be refined? It looks good for small lakes in cold areas, but not in large bodies of water.
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Fully agree, please provide a snow toggle if weâre going to stick with the current system. Itâs just not working in high and low latitudes and just far too overzealous with its coverage.
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A âfrozen waterâ on/off option is 100% required. Iâd rather have unrealistic unfrozen lakes, than having MSFS continue to be like the end scene of Day after Tomorrow.
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Milford Sound they never seem to get right: covered in ice and snow.
Irl 15C and rain.
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Or just a snow/no snow toggle but keep the rest of the live weather for the days flying around the Alaska Panhandle or the Alps.
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Could anyone check snow coverage in central Switzerland (around LSMM) Iâm not on the beta, but this region always had snow all year around in the sim. IRL currently there is snow on mountain tops but no snow in the valleys. The snow line is at 4000ft, below that it should all be green. Thanks!
Still entirely covered in snow unfortunately
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So I jumped on the beta and can confirm, the central part of Switzerland (around LSMM) is still completely covered in snow, while irl there is no snow below 4500ft amsl
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So a lot of people have provided feedback in this thread.
Anything from Asobo, or is it just 
? We are 3 weeks in since examples were requested, and 2 weeks out from SU14 release. Should we take the silence to mean they canât reproduce this? Or that they consider it fixed despite examples to the contrary?
Iâm guessing they fixed the comma place bug but arenât even looking into the snow coverage resolution issue. But again, we are just left to guess because we donât hear anything back. If thatâs the case then at least tell us please so people can stop wasting time testing/providing feedback on this.
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Indeed, my guess is they do not have a fix for the remaining issues (yet) given either data or sim-side issues. MS tends to choose silence when there isnât a fix, which is frustrating for folks trying to help them test.
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They either need to provide a toggle or implement some sort of snow level control drawn from the live weather data.
In a real dumb sense shouldnt they able to derive this from the ambient temperature conditions?
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So nothing changed in the latest beta, we will probably see SU14 with little to no changes to SU13 regarding snow coverage, but this willnstill be considered as âfixedâ, what a shame
YeahâŠchecking Milford Sound again:
Pic with Live weather OFF vs RealWX:
OkâŠMilford Live WX vs RealWX (3h old, +13C):
If Asobo/MS canât get this area right, I would suggest they manually go in and change the snow coverage (or do something) in this area.
Live pic barely has any snow in the mountains. Still some mountain snow coverage seem to bleed down in the whole region, covering the whole area in snow.
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In Germany Thuering means City Weimar EDDE is full of snow now but not in the sim, there just particular.
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Also lakes or lake shores are still frozen in the sim (for example south end of lake Zurich is frozen in the sim). While IRL they are not frozen at all.
Hi,
It has been suggested many times that they need to improve communication but to use a pun it falls on deaf ears. Here we are a day from release and still no direct communication, they are clearly not interested in proper two way talk, the mods/staff of this forum can only do and know so much so it is imperative that the Devs themselves converse with us during these periods. But like I said they are not listening, so we continue doing things where we probably donât have too and therefore waste our time.
Thanks
The biggest disappointment for me are those complete frozen rivers and bigger lakes or even the ocean near the shores. Milford Sound is another problem. In NZ there are not many weather stations, but snow at 15 °C is ridiculous.
Itâs not a matter of them getting certain areas ârightâ. Itâs a matter of them being completely incapable of fixing the issue. Live snow/ice is fundamentally broken. Meteoblue doesnât even show snow anywhere near Milford Sound at the moment. Where is the sim getting that data from? It must be months out of date, and incredibly low-resolution, given that it rarely snows to sea level at Milford even in the depths of winter.
I donât know whatâs technically going on behind the scenes thatâs preventing them from actually fixing this. The data is there, to a resolution thatâs more than adequate, but either Meteoblue isnât including that data or MSFS just canât handle it, and Asobo are trying to bluster their way out of it until â24 releases by marginally improving a few areas and slapping a big âfixed!1!â sticker on it.
They just need to cut their losses, admit that itâs not possible to implement properly at the moment, and either remove the broken feature or give us an option to disable it. IMO real-time snow cover was ridiculous to try and implement before seasons anyway. Seasonal satellite imagery would already give you far more accurate snow coverage in mountainous areas.
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