Snow Coverage still not right

I think asobo done right on the snow coverage height and thickness
For example swiss, maybe live weather may or may not be accurate enough
But concearning coverage it is well done in my opinion
There are snow textures and there is also different in height
And also trees are not completly covered in snow





So if it is bugged i think it has more to do with wrongs in live weather data

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Sebastian Wloch, Q&A Nov. '22 regarding better resolution for snow coverage data:

“The data is there, but it is not in the sim”.

They promised talks with Meteoblue and to inform about the outcome in early '23, but obviously didn’t.

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didnt they say spring without clarifying wich year? probably meant spring 2030 :wink:

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Fly over lake Brienz, lake Vierwaldstättersee or Lake Thun and amaze yourself abotu the frozen surface there. Then come back telling us “it is well done”…No, it is not…

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Im telling you nothing at all, and have no intension to offend people, but if you want to make it personal by setting tone of voice then please take your steps through normal channel and report me to moderator, and have my post removed, but for sure it is my personal opinion and by all means i did not discus ice or frozen, but was talking about snow coverage. Until that time i suggest you block me as person so you do not have to see my postings

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Lukla (VNLK) and surrounding area still showing snow.
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Live Webcam from Lukla used in screenshot:
https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/lukla_nepal_1283113

The snow cover over the Pyrenees just now looked very nice, so it seems to have improved in some places, but there’s still some underlying bug in certain areas it seems


Flying between EDDS and LOWS I see we have also now reverted back to the old “Snow covered roads but fields are clear of snow” bug, which they had fixed a few updates ago. So clearly a regression thanks to SU14, as this was not happening the other day.

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This video shows an example of a lack of snow coverage where there should be. From a well known YouTuber, a RL airline pilot.

At the moment, in winter in Switzerland, I noticed that live weather freezes most of the large lakes in Switzerland.
This of course never ever happens in real life. Most lakes are WAY to big to ever freeze. Some screenshots attached. Most of these lakes have NEVER frozen in the last decades. Some did like once in the 1960ties or so :wink:
Asobo, please fix this. At least for larger lakes.
It breaks the whole winter experience of live weather when flying over all these frozen lakes.
It just looks ridicioulus and is not realistic at all.

Some lakes that are currently frozen in Switzerland but woulnd NEVER unless there is a winter that comes along every like 100 years or so are:
Vierwaldstädtersee, Zugersee, Zßrichsee / Obersee, and many many more all over Switzerland.
Please fix this.
I gues it applies to other parts of the world too.


This lake in the image above for example has never frozen in recorded history.

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Good spot @TheRealOli4D. The issue here is of course knowing what the historical weather was in these regions. Take simple ice buildup on a plane, this can be determined in realtime as you can assume a plane has no icing when you start to fly so it’s progressive.

For a lake it’s different, to determine if they are icing or not, you need to know how long the temps have been below freezing and how big the lake is. That’s a really difficult call as so much more data is required, so they have obviously gone for a simplier approach to show a freezing lake using realtime weather data.

Potentially they could base freezing off size but that’s hardcoding values and is also not ideal, should the weather be below freezing for several days that then looks silly.

I’m not sure what the simple answer is without evaluating historical weather data on a lake by lake bases across the entire globe. So the “Please fix this” statement is not so simple…

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I have noticed this as well near Usuahia some days ago. But indeed this appears to be floating ice, not frozen surfaces. You can notice that on your second picture, of the left sides. The problem is that the simulated ice layer is not scattered (as in the left side of your pic) but continuous and then it looks like a frozen lake when it´s not. If you try to land on it you will notice how it´s still water for the sim.

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I think you are wrong. The lakes are frozen. Some are simply partially frozen because Asobo programmed some transition from totally snowy areas to areas with no snow.
If a like happens to be in such a transition zone, then parts of the lake are frozen, and other parts are not.
Does not really change my point: These lakes do not freeze ever at all anyway. Not partially, and definitelly not totally.
Some rather small lakes might… but definitelly not these big lakes.

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Well it does look silly NOW :wink:
So I would definitelly prefer a method that lakes at some size don’t freeze at all. Because that’s how it is in reality, at least speaking for Switzerland in this case and Europe in generall.
Some tiny lakes might freeze, but large lakes like the ones on my examples do not even freeze if temperatures are below 0° for months.
There is too much wind and also sun during the day. At a certain size, it’s pretty much impossible for a lake in central Europe to freeze at all ever during any winter.
So, no frozen lakes at all would be much more realistic 99% of the time than what we get now where huge lakes that have never been frozen in recorded history freeze imediatelly just because there was a few days of light snow and temperatures of 3° celsius lol
This is silly. Not the opposite :wink:

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I confirm the issue. I noticed frozen lakes/rivers in Italy just west of Parma city, among snow covered hills (snow is correct, we had a lot the past days, but rivers and lakes never freeze here).

I noticed also completely frozen fjords in South East Alaska, flying from PASI to PAJN (along V428), which are completely unrealistic, since the sea never freezes in this part of Alaska for as far as I know.

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This is just another example on the now already almost endless list of things showing that Asobo has basically no clue what their engine is doing and if, they are somehow to ignorant to take care about it. Live weather is ruined from the beginning for flying in the Alps, especially in Switzerland, due to this. Add the obvious inability to proper implement the meteoblue snow coverage and you seriously wonder what is wrong over at Asobo…

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Yesterday I was flying over Croatia and in the vicinity of Istria the Adriatic Sea was frozen in places.

can you land on frozen lakes ? I gotta try this.

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