in the stream the showed screenshots of the new WU18 (germany, austria, switzerland), and within the screenshot @28:17 there was snow visible in the valley (background), whereas there was no snow on the mountain that was showcased (disclaimer: we do not know if this screenshot was taken with live weather and in summer)
however, no great news, at least in regards to the snow issue:
That’s something we have been saying for 2 years now. They need to change their contract with Meteoblue for higher resolution data, or give the option to switch off snow.
Under the assumption that the POI was also photographed using the latest orthos used in the upcoming world update this looks NOT GOOD! The glaring issues with baked in snow in Austrian ortho photography seems not be resolved - what is a huge bummer
Unfortunately the snow shown in the picture is not generated by the engine but is baked in the othophotography itself since there was partial snow coverage during taking the pictures for the orthos …
I truly hope with the new world update this big issue is resolved - the image above on the other hand makes me believe it is not resolved unfortunately
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2024 end of July/early August saw weeks of 30C daytime and 20-25C nighttime at 500-600m above sea level.
But starting a flight at the Zermatt Helipad (which admittably is higher than 5-600m) revealed a live weather covering all directions of the Zermatt valley in white snow, which is completely unrealistic. Anything, except glaciers and the very highest ridges like Klein Matterhorn, is snow free in summer.
Live weather in summer-Zermatt is not possible in 2024.
In past years I’ve flown this valley many times without snow.
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The snow slider outside of real weather works that the coverage has nothing to do with the elevation. If you set a cover, say, at 1500 metres elev. in the Alps, you get the same snow height down to sea level. In real weather you have snow near the highest peaks, just in a given radius from them. When you move farther away, suddenly the snow is gone. This is a major bug in MSFS. Another one is that trees and pastures look the same in the entire world.
As long as you fly in RealWeather mode there is no way you can influence place and height of the snow. Meteoblue can apparently not give us the snow data by elevation.
Simply, it’s not important for Asobo.
I hope their efforts on career mode for console players bring us something of the weather side but I doubt
You’d think this is exactly the kind of scenario where AI could fill in the gaps. In alpine areas, assume a gradual drop of 6.5 degrees celsius per 1000 meters of altitude. So if ground temperature of an airfield at 1000m is listed as 18 degrees (no snow) and there is a 4000 metre mountain next to you, show snow between 3500 and 4000 meters. If the ground temperature is 12 degrees, show snow between 2000 and 4000 meters, etc. (My math isn’t exact, but is just to illustrate the concept that should be easy enough for AI to work out.)
People, fans of MSFS, one thing should be very clear by now, seeing not only this thread spanning almost 4 years: Microsoft/Asobo DOESN’T CARE.
They have consistently shown this through a pattern of behavior: unfulfilled promises, updates that introduce more bugs than they fix, a lack of meaningful communication, and a clear prioritization of marketing and partnerships over core simulator improvements.
Despite repeated feedback from the community, critical issues, from basic avionics bugs to performance degradation, remain unresolved for months, sometimes years.
Four years of the same nonsense, broken promises, sloppy updates, never-ending bugs, and a „communication strategy“ that’s basically just stringing the community along. They pretend to listen just enough to keep hope alive, then pump out more marketplace junk and pointless crossover content nobody asked for.
The focus is towards flashy features, casual content like DLCs, and monetization through the marketplace, rather than addressing the core needs of serious simmers who care about realism, system depth, and reliability.
I think that MSFS has wonderful graphics, very good system depth (thanks to Working Title) but it absolutely lacks in weather fidelity.
Asobo should dump Meteoblue and find a different way to bring realistic weather depiction.
I came to the same conclusion when I tried FS2024 first time. I didn’t mind bugs and crashes but lack of improvements in weather simulation was my biggest disappointment. Flying through storm clouds is butter smooth, you will more likely experience turbulence in clear weather than in clouds. Icing occurs in dry conditions and the only factor taken into account is temperature. Ground physics feels to be the same on dry, wet and snowy runways.
Thankfully there is an alternative with number 12 in the title :).
This post will probably be hidden and my account suspended again when mods return to work on Monday :).