Square Lights

[SveinyK]

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I’m experiencing square lights.

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Just loading into the sim.

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i9-14900K, 4090, 96GB RAM, NVME SSD’s

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SU14

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[DementedCorn327]

Hi @SveinyK ,

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[DementedCorn327]

I honestly don’t see on your screenshot square lights or something incorrect, maybe other can distinguish them. Could you provide other screenshots with increased zoom ?. Which airport is that screenshot from ? So that users can try to reproduce at same spot.

[SveinyK]

It doesn’t matter where it is or what aircraft.
However, the screenshot is default Asobo A320 Neo and at default Gatwick.
It seems to be like this everywhere.

If I zoom in very close it looks normal, when you zoom out, then the lights are very squared.
I’ve seen someone else complain about the same stuff before me, but I just couldn’t find any solution.

I’ve just zoomed in on the same screenshot I provided and here you clearly see that they’re squared.

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It’s very noticible on other traffic around you, further away.

Here is a ref to someone else on the forum:

Square looking navigation and strobe lights on AI planes

The nav lights on AI planes when observed at a distance appears as red, white and green squares and looks very bad, especially at 4k or for those who run at higher resolutions other than 1080p. They look like oversized pixels and they shouldn’t be a single solid color. I took a few pictures to demonstrate the problem. [square_nav_lights2] [square_nav_lights]

[DementedCorn327]

Thanks for the screenshot where we can clearly see the square light. Do you see them for the aircraft as well as for the airports ?
Have you tried to start the sim in safe mode ?

[SveinyK]

Yes, aircraft as well.
I have not tired running it in safe mode, but more than happy to try.

[DementedCorn327]

To start in safe mode: once into msfs main menu, go to task manager, look for flightsimulator.exe and terminate it. Then start the sim and you’ll get the safe mode option.

[SveinyK]

I already got it. Added the running.lock file into the package.
Anyways, I’m afraid it’s still the same.

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[DementedCorn327]

There is that similar topic but related to AI aircraft:

Square looking navigation and strobe lights on AI planes

The nav lights on AI planes when observed at a distance appears as red, white and green squares and looks very bad, especially at 4k or for those who run at higher resolutions other than 1080p. They look like oversized pixels and they shouldn’t be a single solid color. I took a few pictures to demonstrate the problem. [square_nav_lights2] [square_nav_lights]

Not sure if I understood your reply, have you tried in safe mode ?
Can you show a screenshot with a base MSFS aircraft like C152, C172, C208 ?

[SveinyK]

Yea, that screenshot is in safe mode.

Here is of the C172.

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[DementedCorn327]

I would say that usually this type of graphical glitch is due to a mod conflict but if you have started in safe mode and still experiencing it it should be something else. Let’s see other inputs from the community.

[FlyngWithJay]

The square light issue has been happening for a long time now, I noticed it initially months ago when I installed the FSS Ejets, it turned out they had a corrupt FX_0.png texture the the effects files where reading. I do occasionally see it now and again with different aircraft addons…really wish this could be solved permanently.

[SveinyK]

Well, after a complete reinstall of windows and MSFS, with a clean install with the SU’s installed.
I still have square lights.

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[DementedCorn327]

Do you have the Bloom option ON or OFF ?

[SmotheryVase665]

FYI, This is what I see on my PC for the MS Cessna 172 (G1000):
Bloom on (near)

Bloom off (near)

Bloom on (far)

Bloom off (far)

Partial Specs & settings:
Build: SU15B v1.37.11.0
3rd-Party Addons: None, Community Addons: None
i7-12700K (No overclocking), 32 GB 5200 MHz DDR5 CL40, Arc 770 (16GB, v31.0.101.5333).
Graphics Tab: TAA, Render resolution 1700x960 @ 125, AMD Fidelity - 150, VSync - On, FRL - 100% MRR (60 Hz), HDR10 - Off, DX12B, TLOD @ 250, OLD @ 200, Motion Blur - Off, Other settings - all Ultra (but Bloom as above).
Developers Tab: Developer Mode - Off
MSFS Version: MS-Store, Standard

[SveinyK]

It’s enabled.

[SveinyK]

So if I zoom in, it’s fine.
However, the most annoying thing for me is then other traffic far away, when you see squares.

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[DementedCorn327]

I cannot reproduce those square lights. Here at KORD with real-time online traffic:

Do you have installed the Fenix A320 ?, if so, do you if you get same result if you uninstall it ?

[FlyngWithJay]

Im almost certain that the cause of the squares is a corrupted texture file in an effects folder of an addon. Most likely will be a fx_0.png or fx_0.bmp. I was also told it has something to do with the transparency mask on the texture.

I found this out after posting on thread in the FSS Discord because their E-Jets have this issue.

Turning bloom on helps a little bit but if you don’t use bloom the squares stand out like a sore thumb.

[SveinyK]

I’m not going to start uninstalling stuff.
I just had a clean install of windows and MSFS no addons installed at all, and it was happening.
Don’t really know what more there is to it.
Are you SU15B or SU14?