SU11 DLSS vs FSR vs TAA - RTX2080 to RTX3090 upgrade

picklertune · November 12, 2022, 12:49am

PC specs are as follows:

AMD 5600X curve optimized
RTX 2080S undervolted 2xDP to 27" 4K monitors
32GB DDR4 RAM
Windows 11
1TB NVME
Intel AC9260 160Mhz
Sagecom Router - 802.11ax/WiFi6 WiFi 5.7Ghz 1.7 Gbps Broadband

Testing Location and Settings:
All tests were at 4K resolution
KLGA and NYC
1 set with clear weather, 12 PM
1 set with live weather, live time (see next post)
FSLTL enabled default settings
Stock A320neo Aircraft
Live Traffic Off
Multiplayer Off

My Graphics Settings:

Only the AntiAliasing and DirectX version were changed. Every other settings was left the same, include DLSS Mode (quality or 1440p rendering) .

UserCfg.opt dump:

Version 66
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	Adapter "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER"
	Monitor 0
	Windowed 1
	FullscreenBorderless 1
	WindowActive 0
	Resolution 3840 2160
	FullScreenResolution 3840 2160
	PosX 0
	PosY 40
	AntiAliasing DLSS
	DLSSMode QUALITY
	DLSSG 1
	Reflex ON
FSRMode QUALITY
	PrimaryScaling 1.000000
	SecondaryScaling 1.000000
	SharpenAmount 1.200000
	ReprojectionMode 0
	WorldScalePercentVR 100
	AntiAliasingVR TAA
	DLSSModeVR PERFORMANCE
	DLSSGVR 0
	ReflexVR ON
FSRModeVR PERFORMANCE
	PrimaryScalingVR 0.800000
	SecondaryScalingVR 1.000000
	SharpenAmountVR 1.000000
	VSync 1
	HDR10 0
	Raytracing 1
	PreferD3D12 1
}
{Graphics
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	Preset Custom
	{Texture
		MaxAnisotropy 8
		Quality 1
	}
	{SuperSampling
		SuperSampling 0
	}
	{Terrain
		LoDFactor 1.000000
	}
	{OffscreenTerrainPreCaching
		Enabled 1
		Quality 3
	}
	{ObjectsLoD
		LoDFactor 1.100000
	}
	{Shadows
		MaxSliceCount 4
		Size 768
		DLightContributionCullingThresholdS0 0.100000
		DLightContributionCullingThresholdS1 0.100000
		DLightContributionCullingThresholdS2 0.100000
		DLightContributionCullingThresholdS3 0.100000
		OmniContributionCullingThreshold 0.020000
	}
	{HeightFieldShadows
		Enabled 1
		Size 512
	}
	{SSRaytracedShadows
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{Water
		FFTSize 512
	}
	{VolumetricClouds
		Enabled 1
		Quality 2
	}
	{VolumetricLights
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{ReflectionProbe
		Size 192
	}
	{SSR
		Enabled 1
		HalfRes 0
		Quality 2
	}
	{WindShield
		Quality 2
	}
	{SSAO
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{Bloom
		Enabled 0
	}
	{DOF
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{MotionBlur
		Enabled 0
		Quality 0
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	{Buildings
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{VegetationLarge
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{VegetationSmall
		Enabled 1
		Quality 1
	}
	{TextureSynthesis
		Quality 2
	}
	{PostProcess
		Enabled 1
		EyeAdaptation 0
		ColorGrading 0
		Sharpen 0
		Fringe 0
		LensDistortion 0
		Dirt 0
		LensFlare 0
		FilmGrain 0
		Vignette 0
		LensBlurMultiplier 1.000000
		FringeMultiplier 1.000000
	}
	{VectorDataTessellation
		Enabled 1
		Quality 2
	}
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{GraphicsVR
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	{Texture
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		Quality 1
	}
	{SuperSampling
		SuperSampling 0
	}
	{Terrain
		LoDFactor 1.000000
	}
	{OffscreenTerrainPreCaching
		Enabled 1
		Quality 0
	}
	{ObjectsLoD
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	{Shadows
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		DLightContributionCullingThresholdS3 0.100000
		OmniContributionCullingThreshold 0.050000
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		Size 256
	}
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		Quality 0
	}
	{Water
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	}
	{VolumetricClouds
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		Quality 1
	}
	{VolumetricLights
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		Quality 1
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		Quality 0
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	{WindShield
		Quality 1
	}
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		Quality 0
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InstalledPackagesPath "D:\MSFS"

picklertune · November 12, 2022, 12:50am

I will add more later on when I get some time. Will also upload comparison after I upgrade GPU.

TechyCentipede6 · November 12, 2022, 1:32am

Looks like DX12 is only meant for graphic card with 12GB VRAM or more.

I’ll stick with DX11 for now.

TotalMoon980154 · November 12, 2022, 1:35am

Yes pretty much its like that in many other DX12 games and it will be worse with a flight sim. I am not expecting it to improve even when its out of Beta. Better off running most settings on high instead of ultra.

CAPTAINAS007 · November 12, 2022, 2:29am

I did a short flight earlier and even TAA or DLSS DX11 my 30380 Ti was pretty much using all 12GB with settings at Ultra. It does seem that SU11 does use more VRAM.

TotalMoon980154 · November 12, 2022, 4:38am

Are you on 4K? I have most of my settings set to high since I only have 8gb. Seriously though the 3080ti should have had 16gb!

PHSepp796 · November 12, 2022, 6:59am

Turn hardware accelerated graphics (hags) on restart computer and sim and see if it changes
Specially on memory usage for it uses shared memory which allow u more than your graphicscard has onboard

Check the left bottom of this picture usefull for dx12 fsr picture

CAPTAINAS007 · November 12, 2022, 4:14pm

I only have 1440 and the 3080 TI does only have 12GB. I only have it fill up around large photogrammetry cities. Like New York and Chicago which are the only two that I have flown since the sim. Flying over open country barely uses half, it that.

I don’t recall using this much memory in SU10. But things looks great. So, I can really complain.

The one thing that I have noticed is that now when you look to the left or right from within the cockpit it does a more realistic turn to the right or left where before it was kinda of an instant view. I prefered the old way. This change was probably a user requested to make things more realistic.

I have 128GB of Motherboard RAM and the video card can use 1/2 of it, but that RAM is much slower, so I’m sure I will notice some stutters if it uses it.

picklertune · November 12, 2022, 6:38pm

yes this is 4K but obviously when you use DLSS it’s usually rendered at much lower resolutions (1440p for Quality DLSS). I’m only seeing 6/8Gb of VRAM usage with 2080S. It’s not using any of my 32GB RAM. unused VRAM or memory is wasted memory. I just installed a 3090 24GB and will post the difference in results soon. i want to be able to play TAA 4K smoothly which the 2080 cannot do. In terms of turns it’s pretty smooth for me with 2080s. The a310 is a bit slow and laggy but i’m sure that will be figured out soon by the devs.

picklertune · November 12, 2022, 9:03pm

Here are some screenshots with the ASUS TUF RTX3090. I undervolted the GPU to 1875MHz at 850mV. I also included screenshots of core temp, since interestingly MSFS claims main thread limitations. However the CPU load is still fairly low. Make what you want of it, but I’m not impressed with such a big upgrade. Also I’m not so sure upgrading the CPU will help by much given the CPU is not really under too much stress. However I’m planning for a 5800X3D upgrade.