The Alps Elevation Data from LIDAR Imaging

it was already reported. the dev will exclude PG areas in the next update

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has nothing to do with the DEM/LOD, this line is allways there though only really visible under certain weather conditions.

I’m not talking about the horizon line, but the transparent strips in mountainous areas, where you can see through the terrain.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/transparent-strips-in-the-mountains/360660

If those strips are due to perhaps LOD differences at range, maybe increasing the resolution of the terrain would minimise or eliminate this effect.

I have the 10m Austria and 10m Switzerland mesh installed and since then i havent seen any of the stripes. But i did not fly that much so maybe i just missed them. But i had a detailed look yesterday at the mountains and could not see and transparent stripe with the new meshes. :slight_smile:

Before that, they were quite obvious.

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There seems to be an issue with that, french alps looking (zoom80) towards switzerland. Somehow the new mesh becomes completely flat after a certain distance.

Which meshes are you referring to now? The freeware or the taburtet one?

the freeware one

How do these meshes work with the LOD settings. Currently in high quality mesh areas that MSFS have provided there is really awful morphing and basically you cannot even view the highest quality terrain unless you are like a mile or so away. Completely takes away from the immersion and really pointless to have high quality mesh if you cannot view it from a more considerable distance away. Do these add-on meshes morph like the default mesh? If they don’t then what is stopping someone from modding the default mesh so it does not morph? Not sure really either way, limitations, ect. Just wondering because MSFS has supposeably implemented high quality mesh but it is terrible with the current LOD limitations.

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does the payware also kill the photogametrie?

If anyone is curious or wants to show this website to those modders, it has LIDAR DEM data on pretty much anywhere in the world. They just have to select the area and download the data :slight_smile:

ASF Data Search)

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With the freeware stuff from Flightsim.to the morphing is still there but it is less obvious. It is well worth it though as even the 20M DEM is far better than default and VFR in VR with LIDAR is a joy, despite all the acronyms.

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How about the ORBX mesh? Is the morphing still present with their product? If they have fixed that I will feel very encouraged that either some additional mods or Asobo themselves will be able to fix many of these LOD issues like the morphing and poor resolution Bing satellite data at some point. These two issues are probably top of my list for things I’d like to see fixed. Avionics and aircraft have come a pretty long way, especially with FBW, Working Title, and the still somewhat new CRJ, since release.

No noticeable morphing at all for me with the ORBX mesh.

I’ve seen some LOD morphing, and still get the transparent terrain strips. I checked at LOWI, and oddly they appear in a different place than I saw before.

That area looks so much better for it though. Peaks that actually look like peaks.

Same, I’ve seen some LOD morphing in the Alps. The worst is low level flying in a couple valleys, sections of trees popping in as the ground gets shifted. As free products, we’re the testers. Orbx has to test as much as they can before release for payware. That’s a benefit for a small price.

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This is due to the method they are using. Something to do with bgl based via terraforming rectangles (really intended for small areas around addon airports and sceneries) vs the orbx method of using cgl files which is the native format for this sort of thing.

Hopefully Asobo will update the docs / sdk sufficiently for all everyone to access this at some point.

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Mikeaat has added New Zealand to flightsim.to. However, being a first draft, I did spot a couple errors, gaps in the elevation data that caused huge flat terrain areas that cut through mountains north of Kaikōura Peninsula. Other than that, it’s really gorgeous.

Also, the files are huge compared to the Orbx solution. But it may be weeks before it enters Marketplace, if your holding out for that, like me.

https://flightsim.to/file/15092/new-zealand-10m-dem-high-resolution-terrain-elevation-data-interpolated-from-20m
https://flightsim.to/file/15095/new-zealand-10m-dem-high-resolution-terrain-elevation-data-interpolated-from-20m-part-2

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As far as I understand it the DEM Mod is Mesh only, right? Imho, the real problem with Austria is the poor underlying Bing Map Data. Tried to fly the area around Traunsee and Almtal, Attersee, Mondsee again and still snowy white landscape everywhere. Well we had a cold spring, but now we are around 25°C. Mod not insalled so far, but would try if anyone can confirm improvements to this area.

The elevation map won’t affect snow portrayal. It’s height map only.

.cgl has its own issues. A tile used bycgl can not beused by an other cgl, thats especislly problematic at bordersforsuch meshes. Forexample, if you have a cgl for switzerland and one for france, and they ā€œcolladeā€ at a tile, one mesh gets completely flattened. Inthe case ofNZ, thats no problem as there is no other country next to it. Butitis a problem for almosteverywhereelse in the world.

EDIT: Sry for typos, fat fingers on smol phone

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