I just want to open the discussion about the increasing reliance on Simbrief as a route planning tool (feel free to move this topic if I posted it in the wrong forum, it kind of is a wishlist, but not sure it fits here entirely).
With MSFS now including more and more planes (the Inibuilds and ATRs for instance) that don’t play nicely or at all with the MSFS flight planner, you as a player are left with two options:
- Enter the flight plan manually in the flight computer. The problem here is that there is no mention of the selected SID, STAR or airways you just planned in the flight plan once you are loaded into the game, all you have is a long list of waypoints in the NAV log with no mention of SID or STAR, unless you wrote down the SID and STAR while you were planning, but the planner doesn’t show the airways anywhere unfortunately.
- Plan the flight in Simbrief and use Simbrief integration to get the flight plan onto the flight computer. I have used Simbrief in the past with great success, but I am starting to notice that its new owner, Navigraph, is seemingly pushing people more and more to its €10,95 monthly subscription to have semi decent flight plans working in MSFS. Most of the routes I now plan simply don’t work because of changed SID/STAR/waypoint/airway names because of the old AIRAC used (2203) on the free edition. I tried to plan a flight today on the 747 from Liverpool to New York, and the integration failed because an airway was no longer available (probably renamed). I really don’t play enough to warrant a monthly €10,95 payment for a feature that should really be in the game by default if you ask me.
So what I do now is I plan a flight in MSFS, I save the flight, I open the .flt file in notepad to find the route (it’s in there including SID, STAR, airways and everything), and I manually add these into the flight computer in game. While I was filing the latest flight into the A310, I was asking myself if the reliance on Simbrief as a flight planner isn’t getting a bit out of hand? How are Xbox players or less tech savvy players pulling this off or are they all either dealing with broken flight plans or paying €10,95 a month? WT managed integration with the MSFS flight planner in the 787/747 absolutely fine, surely Inibuilds and the rest can be asked to implement such a feature if they are to be shipped as default content in the game?
So I guess my asking is twofold:
- Make it so that every plane on offer in the default version of the game at least supports the MSFS flight planner.
- Allow users to see a flight plan route in game that can be used to manually enter it into the flight computer, like the example below. It includes the SID, STAR, airways and waypoints which allows you to perfectly enter it into the plane’s flight computer without issue and since the MSFS planner uses the same AIRAC as the plane, there are no issues with missing SID, STAR, airways and waypoints.
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