The marketplace desperatly needs quality control ASAP

that’s true, but with how they advertise the marketplace as ‘convenient’ how convenient is it actually when you have to go to many other sources to find any worthwhile information, if there even is any.

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They do it because they can and it is profitable. Possibly more profitable when packages lose support and all they do is accept money without having to update anything.

I’m not familiar with Asobo but Microsoft’s history has pretty much always been to milk markets. They don’t care a whiff about art. They already sold off Flight Simulator once when they deemed it unprofitable. It’s just another product to them. Business.

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Frankly, the Marketplace is only another version of what companies like Aerosoft and Justflight have had for a very long time, and their range of offerings is sometimes no less spotty. The problem that MS has gotten itself into is making the mistake of trying to replicate the DYI/we’re-only-in-it-for-the-love-vibe that Laminar generated around X-Plane. But the Marketplace makes it painfully clear that, where there’s a buck to be made (whether you’re a carney at a county fair or company with more money than god), the love will play a distant second fiddle to the hustle.

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No moderation required. Do your research before buying. Same as when you buy anything else.

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True, but people need to know there is no safety net.

Get a plane that doesn’t meet expectations and oh well. Too bad for you.

At least they let this discussion be visible.

someone need to buy it for there to be anything to even research, this feels more like an ‘i’m fine with people getting ripped off because it stops me getting ripped off’ approach to this and that is such a confusing mindset to have, the burden of providing a working product is on the seller, not the customer, you know, the approach pretty much every store in the world uses?

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I don’t think you can – never tried, but I had always assumed that anything in an .fsarchive would not run from the Community folder, any anything in the official folder was checked to be owned at startup.
I have only “assumed” this, because it would make sense ?
I really have no idea

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To be honest I have assumed the opposite :grin:

I agree with this for the most part! “Buyer Beware”.

I cant shake the Advertising algorithms though, some people may not be seeing the right things! Research and reading should win out though.

Content purchased through the marketplace is DRM protected and validated on startup. (There may also be continued validation heartbeat during play also)

There are a few tickets where purchases have stopped being available for use because this validation process failed.

So in fact the tools exist for Microsoft to stop a user continuing to use a product after they were provided a refund.

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Kind of. These are low priced items and people on their own accord will buy it to review it on YouTube or a flightsim website. Everything we buy is based on reviews or reputation. Find any marketplace addon you find rubbish and there will always be someone who thinks it’s good because it suits their needs. Difficult for microsoft to police what is acceptable since it varies per person. By checking reviews you can ensure its acceptable to you.

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While this would be true and acceptable of an open marketplace with a working review system of its own this model does not work when you have a closed in-game marketplace which because of its nature implies some form of quality control on the part of the game publisher. This will be especially true going forward when it is the main, if not the only marketplace available to Xbox users.

Couple this with the marketplaces own review system as it exists now and the inability to receive refunds even if a product does not work and you have a broken system.

It’s really not enough to rely on 3rd party reviewers on platforms which are not connected to the game to review each and every possible add on because there is no guarantee that they will continue to review content throughout the life cycle of the game.

At the very least the marketplace should have a user review system in place.

*Right now the marketplace features two products by Carenado. If you buy both then neither will work properly. There is no warning of this within the marketplace. No workaround posted in the content description and it’s not possible for users to post that workaround within a review because that functionality is missing.
It’s almost certain that a 3rd party reviewer on YouTube might actually miss such an issue and therefore their review would be flawed.

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As long as all are adults… Now with Xbox a new type of users will come, kids may purchase a lot of stuff and everything goes out of control.

It would be easy for MS to stamp each bought and downloaded product with a unique key and without a matching unique key for the sim it can not be used. They can keep track of who has bought what.

A way to be able to refund would be good. Here in Sweden there is a law saying that you can regret things if you buy them online but unfortunately not digital content. As we will digitalize our societies more and more I’m sure that will be included in the future.

if you sell something that does not work, that is your fault. that’s how it works.

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The point that is totally being missed here is that Microsoft tend to ban any discussion of issues with Marketplace addons saying that these issues should be discussed on the developers website or support forums not the Microsoft forums.

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Well that’s often because such threads degrade into name calling, swearing, calling out moderators etc. I think its far more likely that is the cause, rather than the subject matter.

Uh? This very forum you’re writing on is chock full of threads with discussions of issues about add-ons, on top of plenty of reviews and opinions, including the one that appears to have sparked this thread.

As far as I can see, no one is missing any point.

They are not selling it, they are the distributors, same that if you go to a mall and buy something from a Samsung or apple phone, you will go complain to samsung or apple if it does not have the features they advertised.

would’ve been a great analogy but you forgot to mention the part where you can go back to them and use their refund policy because they are the ones responsible for selling it.

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I never said there should not be a refund policy for a product that does not work for anyone, I said they have no responsability to implement a quality control system.

I also said it is your responsibility as a buyer to check if a plane is up to the standards you expect before you buy it.

I saw a lot of people complaining “ooooh I wasted money in the CS 777” while there are like 20 posts in the forum talking about how bad it is.