I would really appreciate your trim setup screenshots.
How the HW trim actually works?
Question 1: Does it work this way: When the stick is pulled or pushed to some position, the HW trim gradually (with every trim button press) reduces the force on the stick and finally there is no more force to counteract by hand on the stick and the stick stays put in the given (off center) position WITHOUT recentering the neutral point of the pitch axis (the yoke/stick visible in the sim also stays put, in sync with the physical Moza stick, off center)
Question 2: Or does it work like in the question 1 but WITH recentering the neutral point of the axis sent to the sim (the yoke/stick visible in the sim returns to neutrum, out of sync with Moza stick)?
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If there ever should be a hardware failure (this thing is a tank , canāt See what should break) you can replace all parts yourself with a screwdriver and a Allan key , itās built modular and delivering replacement parts is intended, so no need to send it around the world by a courier
It works as in Q1. Iāll share a screenshot either later on today or tomorrow morning of my trim setup.
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In fact Iām more interested in the newly released yoke, I can only assume the trim will work the same way, so any instruction/screenshots would be appreciated.
I downloaded the software, but I doesnāt work without the actual hardware connected.
Do you know the trim following is supposed to work in MSFS?
Here is a screenshot of my hardware trim settings. This is with the AB9 base but the yoke should be the same. Note, although it shows a picture of the POV hat, nothing is actually bound until you assign the buttons so you can use any button or hat on your stick. Where you see the number for each direction, this would actually be a + icon (like you see next to the force trim option) which you click and then press the corresponding button/hat direction you wish to use.
The options circled in red are the ones you really need to use. Force Trim is primarily for helicopters so I havenāt assigned a control for it. Trim Follow Rate is the sensitivity of the trimming - I would suggest setting this about half way then revising from there to suit you and the aircraft.
Trim following from the sim is coming in a future update, not sure exactly when but the next update is due in April. Hope this helps.
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Thank you a lot.
I guess LWD and RWD stand for Left/Right Wind Down?
Do you know how Trim Follow is going to work with MSFS? Will it link somehow the Moza base trimming with trimming inside MSFS? Or will rather reproduce AP Control imputs on Można stick/yoke movents for pure visual joy when flying on AP without hands on the stick/yoke?
What is Trim Force?
What are the functions of the sliders in the bottom part of the screenshot (Trim range)?
Yes, hardware trim allows both pitch and aileron trimming.
Iām assuming trim follow when implemented will be an alternative to the hardware trim and trim the stick based on the trim commands in the aircraft in the sim and not as per the assignments in Moza Cockpit software.
AP follow will move the stick/yoke to follow the AP with your hands off.
I assume you mean Force Trim? This is used for helicopters - I havenāt used it yet but I believe it lets you move the stick to the required position then push that button to hold it there. I could be wrong but I donāt fly helicopters so never used it.
I havenāt used the trim range but these appear to be a setting where you can restrict how much of the full stick range can be used for trimming.
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Another review reporting HW trim not functional with the Moza yoke 
No trim (in MSFS) = no buy 
I wonder if the reviewer assigned the buttons for the HW trim, as the software confusingly shows a picture of the hat switch, even if the buttons are not actually assigned.
New accessories on the way?
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Moza Cockpit 1.0.5.28 beta
From the release notes:
Trim and Autopilot Following Weāve added telemetry-based trim following and telemetry-based autopilot following. Currently, these work only with default SimVars in MSFS or X-Plane (basically, default aircraft and some third-party modules). Iāll post a tutorial before official release which is planned on Apr. 21st.
Unfortunately, no, currently it doesnāt work with PMDG modules. Yes, the implementation can be done on our side, and yes, we know what aircraft we need to implement for ASAP. Thank you for you patience and feedback!
Support for other mainstream aircraft modules will be added in future versions (hopefully in 1.0.6).
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Moza are coming good on their promises which is good to see. Updated to this on the AB9 base and will be testing later in the week.
I would appreciate if you could share your results, especially if and how the H/W trim (nose up, nose down) function works. People on Moza discord report it stopped working with the latest firmware
Managed to give it a quick try on the latest beta firmware and cockpit version. Hardware trim is working perfectly on the AB9. AP follow is also working well although the physical control range is not very large. I havenāt had time to play with the parameters on this one yet. I couldnāt get the trim follow to work though - tried the Duke and default 172. This is all in 2020. I donāt have the yoke to compare.
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Seems like the yoke firmware 1.1.1.45 beta is having (at the time of writing this April 16th 2025) issues with H/W trim. Moza is aware and must fix it. No due dates promised by them. Until itās fixed, Iām not going to order the yoke as the trim is the most important FFB function for me. The vibrations etc. are just nice additions increasing immersion.
User report from Moza Discord:
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Aināt that the truth 
Thanks for sharing that. Iāve been waiting this one out til trim issues get ironed and actually work as they should. Agreed this should have been number one priority for a FFB yoke. Thatās basically the primary selling point for me. Anyone whoās actually flown a real airplane will know how important that is. Canāt believe they released it without proper trim functioning.
TBH, Makes me skeptical on the company actually caring about professional users vs. prioritizing arcade style gimicky features.
Can someone confirm if trim is working on the AB9 base? Thinking of pulling the trigger on that first.
Hardware trim works perfectly for me on the AB9 base. Iāve had it for a couple of months and itās always worked fine. I donāt have any doubts it will be working soon for the yoke as well as the internals must be relatively similar i.e. controller and 2 motors. The software definitely needs some work but it is working quite well at the moment. I have a couple of issues but nothing that stops me enjoying it.
Upcoming Moza AY210 yoke cons:
- Severe issues with software - H/W trim not operational for the yoke (yet?).
- Lower level of dedication and understanding of flight dynamics (they are primarily car racing accessory company). āArtificial - vibration likeā FFB effects.
- No support (yet?) for custom planes like A2A Comanche.
- Concerns with following open source rules with their S/W.
- Lack of focus on MSFS as is supports MSFS, X-Plane and DCS.
CLS-60 cons:
- Higher price (VAT in EU).
- Limited number of buttons on the yoke handle, no buttons/switches on the yoke base.
- Cogging in roll axis reported by some users.
- Size, especially width (weight is about the same ~9kg)
- No dealership network.
- Smaller scale of operation.
- Lack of DCS support.
Size/weight comparison (without mounting tabs):
Moza AY210 base: 216 Ć 403 Ć 111 mm (volume ~9.4ll)
weight with handle 8 + 1.3 = 9.3 kg
CLS-60 base: 281 Ć 434 Ć 164mm (volume ~20l)
weight with handle 9.2 kg
No buttons/switches on the CLS-60 base, limited number of buttons on the yoke handle (lot of screws, I would say more authentic look for a battered GA plane). And there is this crazy red safety power switch for CLS-60 - probably really safe, but very clunky.
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