Tobii Not Working At All in MFS 2024

I didn’t understand the in-sim controls at all.
I also edited the XML, but what does that do?

I can’t control the head/ eye tracking ratio like I could in FS20. In fact, I couldn’t disable eye tracking at all.

Tracking seems super slow, and trying to adjust the curves did nothing.

Then I installed opentrack and figured out how to get tracking working properly.

Then I tried to map ‘Toggle Head Tracking’ to a button on my HC Alpha.
Pressing the button did ‘something’ - the view changed, but it wasn’t toggling anything. So I deleted that binding, restarted everything, and now tracking doesn’t work at all.

What is ‘Axis 1, 2, 3’ etc? It means nothing to me.
I should know by now that what Asobo calls ‘Toggle’ isn’t ‘Toggle’ at all.
I’m darn sure not going to reinstall the sim to try to get tracking back.

Anyone else have an idea? Because once again, the sim Controls are baffling me.

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The axis in the xml file are 0-6
AxisName - 0 = Eye vs Head Tracking Ratio
AxisName - 1 = Eye Tracking Responsiveness
AxisName - 2 = Head Tracking Sensitivity: Pitch/Yaw
AxisName - 3 = Center Stabilization
AxisName - 4 = Head Tracking Sensitivity: Roll
AxisName - 5 = Head Tracking Sensitivity: Position
AxisName - 6 = Head Tracking Auto Center

So, if you want to adjust head/eyee ratio ist the first axis, axis 0,
i disabled eye tracking and have only headtracking. my value is


AxisName="0" AxisSensitivy="100" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"

(The oposite would be 0, only eye no head)

understand ?

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Did you edit the names in the XML file to make sense?
The originals were Joystick Axis 1, 2, 3 etc.
I copied the modified code listed above, so now they’re Axis 1, 2, 3 etc.
It would make more sense to label them as you have them listed.

Maybe the names would be too long to fit in the space allowed.
Then we’d have the same issue we have with long binding commands - windows aren’t resizable, and hovering doesn’t show us the full name.

Anyway, thanks for that. Very helpful.

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I cant post the whole file … the first part is this

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Version Num="-1"/>
<FriendlyName PlatformAvailability="15">aNewTobiii</FriendlyName>
<Device DeviceName="Tobii" GUID="{0}" ProductID="0" CompositeID="0" HWVer="1.0.0.0">
	<Axes>
		<Axis AxisName="0" AxisSensitivy="100" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
		<Axis AxisName="1" AxisSensitivy="50" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
		<Axis AxisName="2" AxisSensitivy="120" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
		<Axis AxisName="3" AxisSensitivy="19" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
		<Axis AxisName="4" AxisSensitivy="95" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
		<Axis AxisName="5" AxisSensitivy="20" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
		<Axis AxisName="6" AxisSensitivy="0" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
	</Axes>
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It tried replacing the ‘0’, ‘1’, etc. with a more descriptive name, but it didn’t transfer.
So I just made a backup of the original XML, edited the original, and made a backup of the edited XML.

Any idea why the edit omits the 'AxisResponseRate=“-1” at the end of every line?

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YOU CAN NOT REPLACE THE AXISNAME BY A NAME. KEEP IT LIKE THEY ARE “0”, “1”, “2”, “3”, “4”, “5”, “6”

ignore it, dont mess around in the file… just edit the AxisSensitity and leave it :slight_smile:

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I just did. Thanks.
I also deleted the 'AxisResponseRate=“-1” at the end of every line, per example, and assigned [END] to ‘Eye Tracking Reset’

Things look much better now.
I appreciate your help.

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I deleted Open Track. I never was happy with the settings. Edited the XML file Axis “0” thru “6” as follows; 85, 0, 100, 20, 0, 75, 100. I am happy with the results. And happy to be using just Tobii and no intermediate program. In fact I like the results better than I ever acheived in FS2020. Johnathan Beckett has an excellent YouTube video on the process. Step by step.

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Were you able to assign keybinds in the Tobii Motion Control section for ‘Eye Tracking Reset’ and ‘Toggle Head Tracking’?

Reset is working for me, but Toggle is not.

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Not sure what you are referring to “Tobii Motion Control section” . I did set bindings on my keyboard profile for head tracking Reset and Toggle off/on, that are working.

Also, I deleted Open Track just by using windows Uninstaller, and it seems to have done the job. As opposed to renaming or deleting files in different folders.

Sorry for the confusion.

In my Keyboard peripheral control section, I opened ‘Camera’ and the first line is ‘Motion Control.’
There are two options: “Eye Tracking Reset” and “Toggle Head Tracking.”

I assigned a key to the first one, but when I assigned a key to the second it behaved weirdly, if at all.

I also uninstalled opentrack using the Windows uninstaller, which worked fine.

The XML settings shown by DaveDeMo6132 above work well for me.
The only thing I don’t seem to have is the Z-axis. Moving towards and away from the tracker doesn’t move my eyepoint foreward or backward.

That’s OK, though. I just use a couple of buttons on my Alpha Yoke to ‘Translate Froward’ and ‘Translate Backward’

Your are 100 % correct.
We have spend big money.
Do not want fool around with workarounds for sure.

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OK, I see where you were now. Neither of those ever worked for me. In the search bar type ‘Toggle H’ You will see Toggle Head Tracking. I set mine to Numlok. In the search bar type ‘EYE’ You will see Eye Tracking Reset. I set that to F12 on mine. Both work in the sim for Tobii. I have the Z-Axis working OK but I am not sure exactly which of the 7 Axis is that. I think it was 5??
Hope this helps.

Thank you very much. I’ll check it out.

Tobii 5 works ONLY with opentrack installed (no eye tracking). The problem is the stutters are just unbearable. RTX4090, 14900k, 96RAM.

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Absolutely ridiculous how long it takes them to fix a relative simple issue
from a OFFICIAL hardware partner…

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Sorry, but this is simply not true.
It works fine, but only if you are willing to, and comfortable with, modifying the XML file as detailed elsewhere in this thread.

The in-sim Tobii controls are unbelieveably poorly done, and without those XML modications, are useless. But my Eye Tracker 5 is working quite well now without OpenTrack.

I am in no way saying that modifying the tobii.xml file is a solution. Far from it…But it does get Tracker 5 working well.

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Does anyone know where the 2024 tobii xml file is?

\steamapps\common\Limitless\Packages\Asobo-input-profiles-pc\InputProfiles\Categories\Transversal

It’s not here, is it? When I open it, the same numbers as the 2020 are lined up.

  1. Reassign it

  2. Click the small gear to the right of the binding assignment

  3. Turn OFF Input Repetition

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I did it for both Reset and Toggle keybinds.
Now they both work as expected.
Thanks!

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