Ok, it is very weird.
I applied all advices and it still doen’t work.
It only works when I “escape” the flight and go back right after to the flight
do not understand what is goign on…
I was mistaken. When I looked closely at the numbers, 2024 was smaller and different from 2020. I re-entered the numbers and it’s working perfectly fine so far. Thank you.
On my computer it shows up in these four places.
My question is, “WHY?”
Why are there four different places?
Which one is being used when?
(Actually, I think it’s only two different places, but the ‘WindowsApps’ locations are duplicates.)
Confused yet? I know I am…
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This is the kind of stuff I don’t understand:
What is ‘Defaulft’? Shouldn’t it be ‘Default’?
‘Sensitivy’? Did they mean ‘Sensitivity’?
Who wrote this file?
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I modified Axis 5, setting “Axis Sensitivy” to 80, and the Z-axis works well now.
Thanks!
Haha, I never caught that. All I care is that it works.
How do I find the XML files I need to edit? I have the details of the settings I use in 2020, and would like to use the same in 2024.
I have the steam version, and it is installed on my E drive, along with 2020.
Looking at the post from satoheli117 above, I can find:
file:///E:/Steam/steamapps/common/Limitless/Packages/Asobo-input-profiles-pc/InputProfiles/Categories/Transversal/Tobii.xml
Is that it? If so, how do I edit it and copy-in the numbers from 2020?
The reason for asking is that I followed the Jonathan Beckett video where the first stage is to set up a new General Profile for the tobii (“My New Tobii Profile”) but there is no indication that I’m editing the correct file as I don’t see that profile name mentioned.
After BegottenPoet mentioned the files being in 4 different locations, I’m concerned that I get the right files, and don’t inadvertently do anything to fluff it up.
If I open the file path above, this is what I see:
Thanks for any helpful advice.
That is the correct file. It even has the same misspellings as everyone else’s. You can open it in Notepad and change the values with your keyboard. Don’t forget to save before you exit.
CAUTION! Don’t use the same settings as in MSFS2020. They are in a different value configuration. The decimal points are different. 2024 uses whole numbers. I am a store version, don’t know if that makes a difference.
Thank you for the quick response, very much appreciated!
I will give it a try. I noted from reading the threads about the decimal values, will report back…
I recommend downloading Notepad++
It’s free, and is much better than Notepad.
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I got it working, thank you guys for all the input.
I just copied the settings from @DaveDeMo6132
My only problem is that the middle center position is giving me a headache when approaching (320)
It’s hard to explain, I’m not that good in english😅
Obviously on the approach the pitch changes in correlation to the ground and so moves my head to adjust
But the tracker is trying to „lock“ me into the middle, I can’t make small movements around or close to the center.
I need a bigger initial head movement to move around.
It’s no problem when I check things on the plane, it’s just the small adjustments I would like to make around the center position.
Thank you, I was able to edit the xml and it works perfectly!
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Thanks for the help. I edited the XML files and went back to the tobii general profile in the sim and it seems to be working mostly as I would expect now.
A couple of issues remain though - I have the toggle and reset head tracking functions mapped to buttons on my throttle, exactly as with 2020.
The toggle function only turns head tracking off briefly, for just a few seconds, before it starts again without being commanded. The reset function doesn’t work at all, leaving me setting up the view to my preference with arrow keys and the mouse zoom.
Has anyone experienced these issues, or seen any solutions?
It’s so good to have tracking (sort of) working properly again, but a shame the setup couldn’t just have been carried across from 2020. I am pretty cheesed off that so many basic functions didn’t or still don’t work or are missing, or require manual workarounds and file changes by users.
Thank you again for any suggestions to help iron out these last issues.
For me the problem was that the binding had repeat ticked
Tobii works great with the xml edits, but does anyone have it stop working completely if they use ESC to enter the menus?
Same here. NixonRedgrave taught me the fix.
I could be mistaken, but I don’t recall Tracker ever working when in the menus.
Thanks for the pointer on repetition - everything is thankfully now working exactly as it should have from the beginning!
I find the same with regard to head tracking movement in the menus - no head tracking movements in either 2020 or 2024.
Initially, 2024 responded in an exaggerated fashion to the eye tracker. When trying to set up controls or generally navigate the menus, I could see the globe whizzing around at enormous speed in the background, but this seems to have stopped now too.
I remember when they fixed that in FS2020. I’m glad it doesn’t happen in the new sim. Talk about vertigo!
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Even if setting via game controls setting interface does not work most likely it´s still posible to duplicate the default Tobii profile at game´s controls setting menu to create a custom one and edit values directly it that new duplicated profile. I would not modify any default game content file but just create such user control profile instead.
If Tobii works as in MSFS case all you need to do is editing your local control profiles at:
\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.Limitless_8wekyb3d8bbwe\SystemAppData\wgs\
Searching there for the file that contains the newly duplicated Tobii profile, most likely inside the latest editied folder, just edit the axis values in the file (file has no extension but it´s an xml format file anyway), using the following criteria. I wrote axis names and example values here just for better understanding:
AxisName - 0 = Eye vs Head Tracking Ratio - 1
AxisName - 1 = Eye Tracking Responsiveness - 0.25
AxisName - 2 = Head Tracking Sensitivity: Pitch/Yaw - 1.65
AxisName - 3 = Center Stabilization - 0.85
AxisName - 4 = Head Tracking Sensitivity: Roll - 0
AxisName - 5 = Head Tracking Sensitivity: Position - 0
AxisName - 6 = Head Tracking Auto Center - 0
To know which file is the correct one to edit simply search for the friendly name entry. You need to check the files that have no file extension and very long names made of letters and numbers. For instance if you duplicated default Tobii profile and saved it as a new “Custom Tobii” profile you should find the following entry at the top of the file:
<FriendlyName PlatformAvailability="15">Custom Tobii</FriendlyName>`
Those values match the following original MSFS config, however in FS2024 the scales are not the same. As far as I have seen at youtube videos from users proposing fixes some values now range from 0 to 100 instead of from 0 to 1:
The above picture configuration should be translated into the following entries at your custom profile file in the wgs folder:
<Axis AxisName="0" AxisSensitivy="100" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
<Axis AxisName="1" AxisSensitivy="25" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
<Axis AxisName="2" AxisSensitivy="165" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
<Axis AxisName="3" AxisSensitivy="85" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
<Axis AxisName="4" AxisSensitivy="0" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
<Axis AxisName="5" AxisSensitivy="0" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
<Axis AxisName="6" AxisSensitivy="0" AxisSensitivyMinus="0" AxisNeutral="0" AxisDeadZone="0"/>
This should work. You can modify the values in this example to match your own needs.
I bet the bug is simply related to UI and those scale ranges that for some reason have changed in FS2024 compared to MSFS case.
Cheers
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