Toolbar missing in VR

[DerFluch21]

SIM INFORMATION

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• Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024:
  2024

• Game Platform (Exampe: Steam, Xbox, MS Store):
  MS-Store

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

1. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

nothing in community folder
2. Description of the issue:

No matter what I do, no matter what button I assign, I can’t get the toolbar opened in VR.

This is espacially sad, since the mission window is disappearing when changing from 2D to VR. And then there is no way of getting it back.

And even though I have a binding in the Controls part of the settings menu, it is not shown in the VR section.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)

every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue.

1.start the sim
2. load a flight
3. go into vr
4. try to open Toolbar with assigned button
→ fail

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

1. What peripherals are currently plugged in, as well as your VR headset? Please name all of them as there could be a potential conflict.

Pimax Crystal Light, PimaxXR, MS Sidewinder FF2, Logitech Throttle, Logitech Multi Panel

2. [PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

3. [PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

4. [PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

RTX 4090
5. [PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

7800x3D
32GB Ram
RTX 4090

MEDIA

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[SPERABrentH]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• same - mapped Toolbar to SHIFT+TAB, entered VR, pressed keys, Toolbar did not appear / render
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• 3080Ti + Vive Pro 2

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[SamuraiSax]

I dug through the labyrinth that is the new menu system and mapped a keyboard key to toggle the toolbar in VR. When in the VR cockpit, though, it doesn’t seem to work consistently. It turns on randomly and then I can’t seem to turn it off again.

I really need a tutorial for this sim.

[TolleWurstinnen]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
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Yes, no VR toolbar available - no matter which key on keyboard or button on Yoke I assign to toggle the VR toolbar.

Help would be greatly appreciated to make VR more usable.

[ButeoButeo2369]

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Yes
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[AIRBORNE4795]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes. VR functionnality is botched currently . Toggle VR toolbar key binding says (?) in the VR section when it’s properly mapped per peripheral.

[Silvera1657]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• YES

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• NO VR Toolbar using the toggle button

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[joeaudacious]

I had this problem today too. At one point I had the same button bound also to toggle general control panel or something like that, then if I closed that other panel the toolbar was visible in vr.
But after unbinding that other toggle the vr toggle is not working.

[Harfentoni]

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• Yes same

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• 3080TI on Quest3

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[Llandru]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

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• matches OP

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[franco4gamin]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• YES on 2024… not on 2020

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• Sometimes it will work in 2024 (rarely) and then breaks again.

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[SPilot95]

I am having the same problem as OP. Same hardware setup as them and Windows 24H2

[OttoPilot2235]

Putting the same button in both slots on my yoke worked for me. I can now toggle the toolbar on / off in VR.

[kenrio]

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• same here

[DT19698255]

Toolbar is shown with ALT-T. You can change this in the key bindings.

[Baracus250]

@DT19698255

ALT-T.

In theory yes, but it does not work consistently at all. Sometimes it turns on, but then cannot turn off again (so it’s not a toggle?). In fact I think I have never been able to turn it off.

Sometimes it does not even turn on.

Go back to 2D and the handlebar thing by hovering mouse at the top is also missing. Deeply broken IMO.

[DT19698255]

You are right, sometimes it doesn’t work. In 2D it work for me in the beginning but it didn’t now.

[BearsAreCool510]

I have the same issue, as reported by OP

[Baracus250]

Additionally I think that trying to open it in VR then breaks it in 2D so you literally cannot get at the toolbar buttons until restarting flight.

Tried that and got a CTD by the way (separate issue). Fun fun!

[SpeedyEngineer]

So, in 2D flying the toolbar kind of hides until you scroll your mouse up to it. Well, for me, when I’m in VR I press my toolbar binding and I see nothing. Then, while still looking straight ahead, swipe my mouse cursor from the lower portion of my view to the upper portion, and the toolbar appears when the mouse cursor moves over it. Just like the action in 2D. Quirky, but seems to be a temporary mitigation. Does this work for any of you?