It’s as stable as hell 
I have a 3800X paired with a 3060 12GB and it’s really looking nicely balanced so a 5800X and a Ti should also be
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Thank you all!
Keep in mind if you want to go with the B550 chipset, you will be limited to one M2 drive in PCIe 4 mode. If you plan on adding another m2 drive, you’ll be limited to PCIe 3 in the second slot. If you think it may be an issue in the future with adding another m2 PCIe 4 drive, I would consider getting the x570 chipset. You will have access to 2x m2 drives in PCIe 4.
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I have C14 @ 3600Mhz should I relax the timings?
If you’re stable at CL at 14, keep it there. You’ll get a small latency reduction compared to 16.
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Nope you’re at an advantage with the lower timings at that speed. Probably Samsung B die ram. Nice.
Sure is, PC-3200 CL14 GTZR and before the W11 beta it was stable at C16 x 4000Mhz … funny thing was that Windows explorer crashed and not even ctrl alt del worked but the sim didn’t flinch and I could finish my flight.
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Thanks for all your help peeps. Went for this in the end. Its supposed to be a work computer too so had to limit my budget slightly.
GameMax F15M MESH
AMD RYZEN 7 5800X
BE QUIET! Pure Rock - Ultra Quiet Option - (AIR)
ASUS TUF Gaming X570 Plus Wifi X570 Chipset - PCI-E4.0 - USB3.2- Dual M.2 - Crossfire - Wifi
32GB DDR4 3200Mhz - CORSAIR - Vengeance RGB PRO
1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 NVMe- 7000MB/s(R)-5000MB/s(W) - GEN 4
nVIDIA | GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB - HDMI-DP - VR Ready
600W PSU - FRACTAL DESIGN 80+ (Mid Gaming)
Looking forward to liveries, global shipping, higher details and freeware…oh and decent planes!
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Nice but I would up the PSU to a 750 or 850 in case you ever want to upgrade
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Congrats … Hope it achieves what youre looking for it to do.
I do however find a few of the deviations from your original build curious. Wondered why you changed them.
The Mainboard Chipset that was you had previously was B550. You would have had 1 gen 4 NVME slot and a second Gen 3 NVME slot. I think that was more than adequate considering you would be hard pressed to find programs that would saturate GEN 3 transfer bandwidths anyway much less the GEN4 one.
You also picked up the older Gen X570 which has that possibly noisy chipset fan and not the newer X570s mainboard sans fan.
Samsung 980 Pro … for the purposes of flightsim is overkill… The Adata 8600pro was more than enough for the purposes of the build. As a matter of fact you would be hard pressed to find a discernable real world difference between both unless you just want the crystaldiskmark bragging rights (I know … I have both and i build my flightsim rig with the 8600pro). Granted you could work in the film or graphics design industry or any other industry that moves hundreds of gigabytes of data for projects for it to be worth it. At that point yes the Samsung is going to provide a tangible difference.
The extra spent on the X570 and the GEN4 Nvme could have been spent on getting tangible performance improvements with the faster ram that was recommended. You only load items once… The Memory is in use all the time added to the fact that the CPU you purchased has the memory controller on the actual chip I think you missed the opportunity to improve overall performance here especially considering the timings for that ram is already at CL16 so your going to be hard pressed to move the needle to DDR3600 and still be at CL 16.
Most importantly… did you check to ensure that the memory you are purchasing is on the motherboards QVL? Because taking a cursory glance … the model SKU CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 which i believe corresponds with the memory you intend to buy isn’t showing up on the Tuff Gaming’s X570 board’s QVL. Yes it should still work. but personally when building mine or anyone’s rigs i don’t take those risks.
Also as DensestSnail stated the PSU could have done with a little bump in specs. I said nothing initially because for right now The PSU matched the system you had previously specced out perfectly for the GPU used. But if extra money was going to be spent it should have been on fixing the memory specs and possibly upping the PSU so when you do upgrade your GPU don’t have go buy a new PSU on top of that.
But this these are just recommendations… At the end of the day its your money being spent.
Have fun building.
Given this line of thinking if you are going the laptop route with a RTX 3080 16 GB at ~150W (I’m guessing that is equivalent to Desktop 3060 Ti), would Tiger Lake i7 11800h be enough, or is i9 11980hk worth the cost and wait to get a meaningful performance bump in the sim?
Thanks for the detail explanation I appreciate it. Let’s see how I get on!
In the news today:
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I have a Ryzen7 3800x that paired with a 3060 doesn’t even break sweat so I can’t really see that the sim will need such a powerful cpu unless you’re running twinned 3070s, 80s or 90s and an 8k screen.
As is said in Field of Dreams, “Build it and they will come …”
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Well build me one while you’re at it … so I can test it for a year or two
You should refrain from posting these types of clickbait headlines. This adds absolutely nothing to this thread discussion. A 10-core 12600k beating a 6-core 5600x by 50% in multithreading isn’t exactly surprising.
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The OP title is “What CPU should I buy?” The point is that if one wants the latest and the greatest perhaps one should build one’s brand new PC with a 12th generation Intel chip, also considering patching needs that AMD has with Windows 11, etc., (and the not-too distant planned obsolescence of Windows 10). There is nothing absolute in computerdom, so all info is relative and its relative value ever-changing. And calling a major technological announcement by Intel, just reported by a third-party, “click-bait” is needlessly pejorative, IMHO. Also, if both Intel and AMD chips in the titular comparison are the same price point, what’s wrong with getting more cores (and much better performance) for the same price point?! - knowing Intel, though, it’s probably not going to be anywhere near the same price point as AMD…
I don’t understand that justification. That article does nothing more than state the 12600k has better performance than the prior-generation 11900k, and 50% better performance than a year-old competing AMD with 4 less cores - all based on alleged leaked benchmarks and pricing. There are better articles to post to make your point, but posting subjective articles like this just detract from the point of this thread.
The L3 cache latency issues with Ryzen and Windows 11 is irrelevant at this point. Both issues have been patched last week via a Windows update and new chipset drivers from AMD.
I don’t know enough about Gracemont cores to state definitively - but these are “low-power cores” and don’t offer multi-threading - only 1 thread per Gracemont core. So discounting the Gracemont cores, the Intel i5-12600K and AMD Ryzen 5 5600X are identical in core and thread count - 6 cores, 12 threads. And if the Gracemont cores can be used to better advantage in MSFS and one were building a new computer, I’d certainly go for that added advantage. But if AMD is about to be coming out with something newer and even better, that’s the way it goes. In very little time, there’s always something better than what one just got. I hope when one asks, “What CPU should I buy?,” the forum is open to all suggestions. I’m just raising one possibility of many, that’s all.
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