What is this flight simulator

Hmm… I have never seen it this way!
Yes Resident Evil 2 is more a zombie survival simulator with realistic ballistics with health spray + ammunition management addon.
I even thought about nailing boards on my window frame and buy some blood-stopper sprays in the pharmacy and use the leaves of my Ginseng tree as green herbs to make this brutal and merciless zombie outbreak more immersive. :smiley:

Why so serious? Nothing is better and more fun than sitting in front of a computer! Every good nerd knows this since 1970.

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I had one of those! Commodore 64 - great fun.

Or it could be wonder women…

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The Flight Simulator 2020 has risen to the next level and is now the Fenix Simulator 2022!

Except “fly on autopilot” procedure and flow simulating Tubeliners take minimal advantage of MSFS. Yes it is good we have them - but crossing the Atlantic at FL 300 on autopilot can be done equally well on any platform.

I mean it doesn’t really matter, but, I’ll play.

To Microsoft & Asobo it’s a product.

To some it’s a game, a distraction, a fun way to kill an hour or two.

To some it’s a serious simulation, mimicking the intricacies of flight, the challenges associated with it etc.

It really is what you chose it to be.

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He is serious and don’t call him shirley

LOL…game, just like Ex-Plane, and P3D are games too. They’re all games in case you didn’t realize it.

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Well said! So many oldschool simmers are too scared to embrace the new era of flight simulation. I mean, you were spot on, it’s easier for them to be in denial and spam forums about “tEh xP 11 pHysIcS” that are so incredible blablah, while the fact is that MSFS just blows the other sims out of the water already in so many regards, it’s just sad to witness. But hey, the devs are just getting started, the sim keeps getting better and better and this progress is unavoidable. A sim takes time to develop, and Xp11 or P3D didn’t just fall out of the sky being what they are now. Many years or decades of work are behind those, but one thing is clear, they’re the past, not the future.

X-Plane is FAA certified and can be used to gain hours/training given you have a flight instructor beside you.

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MSFS is still just a video game for entertainment purposes though. Even if it does blow XP11 out of the water, visually. It doesn’t change the fact any version of the Microsoft Flight Simulator series was never really a simulator.

Xplane is just as much a game, in many regards moreso than Msfs. Just because it isn’t to you personally, that doesn’t mean it isn’t a videogame. The only sim, out of the ones for the desktop, that does not fit this bill on paper, is P3D, which by its EULA is sold as a “non-entertainment” platform/ professional training sim. Xplane retail, DCS, Aerofly, Msfs etc are all entertainment rated and thus absolutely deserve the “Game” tag. Nothing wrong with it either. It’s you who turns it into the sim you like, not the definition of what it’s sold as.

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Folks,

I think the best and most memorable info to come out of this thread is that the 40th anniversary of MSFS is going to include a DC-3. :+1:

John

Sometimes we think too much to categorise something when we should really just be enjoying what it gives us.

I couldn’t careless what it is, I just want to sit down and fly a virtual aircraft.

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156 replies on this thread to figure out the obvious. MSFS is a flight
simulator game
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158 it is a skyscraper

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Nope. Absolutely NOT .

There is a version of XPlane for around $500 plus that CAN be FAA certified when connected to about ten grand worth of certified hardware - that bit is true enough.

It is also very similar to the retail game that we gamers buy. But it is not the same product.

The XPlane retail game coupled up to some Logitech or Honeycomb Yoke in a home cockpit is absolutely not FAA certified. Nor is trying to train yourself unsupervised on a flight sim game of any type a particularly good plan.

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Hey there, @SkyKing310B, and welcome back to the forums. There seem to be many simmers super excited for that iconic bird.

Be sure to check out the Forum Guide in the event new forum features/capabilities were introduced since you were last here. Again, welcome, back.

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You’re right about not using retail version of X-Plane for flight training purposes, and that also applies to MSFS and P3D. They’re all video games that are uncertified and using them to rely on flight training is irresponsible.

The reason why I mention XP is FAA certified, is simply to illustrate that XP can provide what MSFS cannot. For those who want to train on flight simulators, they should use the XP FAA-certified version. It still uses the same realistic physics as the retail XP version. The only difference is as Laminar describes…

So remember folks, if you wanna rely on flight simulation while being safe in the air, it’s probably best to use software approved by aviation regulators…

Soon fenixlicious airbussing will become FAA-certified training simulator flying…