Because casual players want to fly military aircraft. DCS devs failed at that and refused to see the huge casual crowd and ignored them. So now MSFS is a chance for other devs to make some quick buck.
I just ignore them because they seem very low quality. But i don’t think giving people what they want is bad. If someone is happy with DC design or bredok quality planes it’s his right to give them money.
I’ve had DCS for ages but rarely bothered with it. I thought I’d knuckle down and have a fiddle.
After a couple of days I’ve realised how great their planes are. It’s totally next level compared to MSFS in almost all cases.
I’ve also realised that apart from the planes themselves, the terrain looks like a mobile game with a small area to operate in, most of which is totally uninteresting. This is a shame because other elements like water are also handled better than MSFS.
I like terrain and I like the exoticism and capabilities of military aircraft. Therefore I hope every freaking military plane ever made ends up in MSFS but with a lot less of the cartoon element.
A large percentage of the world’s aviation infrastructure is military. I want that represented accurately.
1 Like
I agree, I was surprised to see so many modern military planes as well, especially jets.
My conclusion is: They are easy to make (as long as they are super arcade) and they sell well.
I would not mind buying an A400 or any of those fancy WWII planes, but fighter jets are not my cup of tea.
Hopefully, better, less arcade planes, come in the near future as developments advance and the SDK is completed.
2 Likes
MSFS is a “civil” sim, they do not invest in any of the weapons systems, defense, or damage modelling to be a “military” sim. MSFS does not model combat features…
Even more so MSFS “military” aircraft are restricted to “civilian” flight modelling. This is a fact.
Nice try, but find something else to debate about…facts alone answer your question.
1 Like
I would need to get TrackIR and a HOTAS to really give DCS a go. It’s in the plans, but for now, I’m perfectly content to buzz skyscrapers and blast down canyons in my F-14. It’s a ton of fun to fly, and great for checking out some new thing that Asobo just updated. I probably won’t get any more military jets in MSFS, unless they truly are “study level” since the F-14 fills that role for me. I don’t care that none of the weapons systems are modeled. You don’t see any combat at air shows, and yet people love to go to those, right?
Nope. If you by the Fiat G91 anywhere other than the marketplace it comes with an app to load a large variety of different ordinance and it can even drop iron bombs that show up in multiplayer and leave little craters in the MSFS terrain.
2 Likes
That’s totally incorrect. MS restricts products purchased through the Marketplace (*) but if you’re on PC, you can just as easily go buy DC Designs F-14 from JustFlight and have a full load out of AIM-54 Phoenix, AIM-7 Sparrow and AIM-9 Sidewinders, all accurately modeled, with real mass and definite impact on the flight characteristics. No, they can’t be fired. But there are certainly there and they look fantastic.
(*) Really don’t know why MS has taken the stance they have currently; somewhere in my pile of old install CDs, I have a copy of MS Combat Flight Simulator from the early 00’s.
3 Likes
Nope, you contradicted yourself. If the sim / marketplace does not have the feature, then Asobo does not implement it natively, much like helicopters.
3PD devs can “squeeze” in what they will beyond the limitations of the SDK, but MSFS is a civil sim. Facts.
LOL…“little craters”…nice try.
yes, away with the military stuff.!!!
Completely realistic flying is only possible with this nice planes:
In addition, a good representation of the aerodynamic advantages in FS
Your fantasy.
Most of the best MSFS addons are NOT in the marketplace. The Just Flight PA28s, The DC6 etc etc are all only available externally. The marketplace is just where you get Captain Sim products and those “oh so pretty” Carenado things that look pretty but barely fly.
As for the G91, the ability to actually drop bombs and have an effect on the terrain was one of it’s major selling points and a source of some annoyance to marketplace purchasers who had not realised the sillyness of the MS rules.
Impressive!
But I wouldn’t want to come across the latter, bad boy, on a dark night.
1 Like
Face reality…
-
MSFS is a “civil” sim despite what 3P Devs “fit” into it. There is a addon that allows you to drive cars in MSFS. That does not make MSFS a “car” sim.
-
MSFS is a civil sim…the intended purpose of the Dev / coding in the base sim…plain an simple. No planes blowing up, no radar lock, no countermeasures etc.
Look up the definition of fantasy, and see if “you” can “mod” it to mean a fact. LOL.
1 Like
It is, “the sillyness of the MS rules”, as you put it, that are the only bulwark that stands between you
and your ilk’s apparent desire to ruin the MSFS landscape and [I imagine] most simmers desire to
just enjoy the scenery that MSasobo has delivered up, for what it is. Beautiful!
I do not get why it is such a big thing though. How does it affect the people that do not want military AC in the sim that there are some? You will not see them as you do not have the model and the spitfire in MP could very well be a TBM or whatever.
And the devs that build the planes have families to feed and will produce what sells. So there is obviously a market. Over time it will even out.
I want to see different planes as well. I’ll just wait.
That is not the issue however.
A lot of posts in this thread [mine included] have either no problem or actively encourage the availability
of military type aircraft for MSFS 2020!
This is though about ‘LIVE’ ordinance.
Who, in their right mind, would enjoy rolling up to a designated runway only to find it unusable
because some scrote, in his infinite lack of wisdom, had thought it a great idea to leave a line of bomb
craters up the middle of it!
I see a lot of arguing about nothing in this thread - most people are saying similar things.
What the OP was getting at, and I agree, is that the sim seems to be focused on military aircraft, not that they shouldn’t exist. I’d personally like to see a variety of aircraft brought to the in-game marketplace each week.
Folks, you’re being baited by a troll, learn to ignore them. Microsoft Flight Simulator simulates flight, thus anything that can fly is fair game. Everything else being said is utter tripe. Nobody else has the right to tell you what is permitted or suitable. If military aircraft were not permitted or suitable, they would not be present.
For information - over 20% of all aircraft sales in flight simulation ( ESP platforms and MSFS ) are military. That’s one-in-five of all purchases. The military market in supposedly “civilian” sims is huge.
7 Likes
Flight simulation software : Check 
Varieties of AIRCRAFT : Check
QED .
3 Likes
The OP should always begin with: “In My Opinion.”
It doesn’t matter what side of the fence you are on, MSFS is an open platform. There is no harm in military bases and aircraft appearing in MSFS. Obviously, there are limits on what you can do with weapons and damage models etc. If you develop detailed military aircraft and bases, guess what I’m most likely going to purchase them. To each his own… check.
2 Likes
I just don’t understand your need to try to get everyone to conform to your viewpoint. MSFS can be whatever the user wants it to be so long as MSFS allows it. You can sit happily in the cockpit of whatever you choose to fly for all I care. If you want it to be civil only then fine. For you it can be. If I want to be able to fly a variety of aircraft then fine too. I can. End of story.
2 Likes