Whats your opinion on MSFS now? Here's mine

It’s a lot of fun most days, and I generally have a blast flying around in my part of the world. On those occasions when I feel frustrated by one problem or another, I quit the sim and read a book. Or take a walk. Or bake some bread. Or… well, you get my drift.

At the end of the day it’s just one little part of my life.

Cheers! :beers:

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Its a beautiful Sim… But Microsoft/Asobo need to stop updating it and fix the problems people are having with it I’m lucky if I get to finish a flight without CTD

I’ve updated nearly everything bought a G2 to fly in VR so at this stage I’m really disappointed in it

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MSFS is not merely an evolutionary progression in flightsim technology, it is arguably revolutionary. The technology is iterative by nature and will be improved and enhanced over time. As a baseline platform, there really is no comparison. It can only get better.

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And the worst thing is that she is not alone. On the other hand, some people here on the forum are asking for more simulated life…

haha I might try and learn to make my own mini sceneries
!!!

I think all can agree the sim looks great! (aside from visual issue everyone know about now)
Surely the “next gen” platform. And YES, FSX, we didn’t have any updates and so on so forth…

  1. For me and my area, the Weather, Weather, Weather…is inconsistent at best. No cirrus clouds but yet “the system produces all cloud types”…that has never been true…sorry and it’s shameful.
  2. Mult-monitor should have be available out of the box…this is 2020.
  3. Base items(Water wakes, tower views and other views that were already in FSX) not available.
    FSX should be in the rearview…but, we’re not there yet…

Feedback/Bug snapshot has looked the same for months now…
Seems as the development progress is floundering around in circles. When asked about an issue, its pushed off til the next update…

Along with other items other people have mentioned…that stuff too…

I know this stuff takes time. I know this is a new platform…all that I agree.
But these excuses will start wearing thin…

Me, too because of these items, I haven’t been flying as much as I’d like.
This sim can be “dam”(don’t want to be nasty) good.
I just pray these people to “freak” up this thing…
Sorry, my opinions on this thing…
Pray it changes…

EDIT: Pray they DON’T “freak” up this title…
:slight_smile:

My opinion ? i have uninstall it. wil try in a few years if it become a stable plateform, note a constantly degraded version to equal xbox version to come, if they don’t act like if Zendesk was directly linked to the recycled bin, if they open enough to have the great addons we have on previous FS.
It is save only by community and wonderful mods to correct so many things they seems to don’t care…
To be shorter, i will try again when it will be a FS11, not a MS Flight 2.

Well, since your asked, “How happy you are with the sim’s development right now” and not “Is everything in the sim exactly as you want it right now, assuming there will be no further development, and does it run perfectly every time, unlike most things on Windows”, it’s easy for me to say I am very very happy with the sim’s development.

The addition of VR, the improvements to the vr performance, the number of 3rd party planes and apps, the continued free world updates, and the immersion are incredible. I bought this sim thinking I would use it consistently for a month or so but it has become my most used program. I seemingly literally can’t get enough of it.

Thanks for asking.

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My thoughts exactly!

I know you took that screenshot from DCS World.

Just wanted to make a comment on the topic of control sensitivity.

I use the thrustmaster warthog hotas (both the joystick and throttle) in DCS, own and use numerous modules (yak, a10c, f18 just to name a few), and since 2017 up until now I never had to tinker with the Axis Tune Panel. Doesn’t matter if I’m flying the Yak (a single engine prop) or the A10C, I just leave all sensitivity settings untouched at their factory default settings, yet inertia and control sensitivity always feel satisfactory.

MSFS 2020 is the first product where I had to deal with control sensitivity so much and tinker with so many sensitivity options just to get it reasonably right and useable. The default sensitivity settings are extremely twitchy and makes me want to believe that the devs dumbed them down to make it easy and twitchy ( and therefore “fun” ? ) for Xbox controller users, and we PC users are having to deal with the aftermath.

Been using X-plane, FSX and Prepar3d too for many years and never had to deal with their control sensitivity settings so much.

Slew speed is tied to sim rate. Increase the sim rate and you can slew into space in a few seconds. Or decrease it to fine tune.

I love the game, although it is as much managing the sim as flying the plane. It would be useful to have key bindings for all the options I have to change regularly. But with a bit of juggling and keeping an eye on memory usage, no more CTDs or trying to land at 2 fps.

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I have very mixed feelings after using this sim for 9 months and several updates. I don’t recall any flight sim in the past that, after 3 major updates, had so many basic flight related bugs still happening. Most planes I fly are fine if I don’t use nav functions/autopilot functions. The bigger planes are the worst- turn AP off and sometimes it will nosedive or bank sharply. ATC is still miles behind FS9 in my opinion, as far as vectoring directions and altitudes correctly and safely (I’m not a real world pilot and don’t care if the terminologies aren’t 100% accurate but I want to be given correct altitude instructions so I can intercept an ILS or won’t crash into a mountain.) Try to turn a ALT or HDG knob or radio knob while banking or in normal turbulence. The mouse doesn’t stay on it. In the middle of important navigation procedures the plane is moving under the mouse. The 3D cockpits are very realistic visually but functionally horrible. We need something 2D and stationary when doing these things.

So those are the negatives.

The positive is the world, the scenery. If you really are honest about it, the only improvement over past sims, even with cartoonish scenery, was the graphics. They are incredible. I can do VFR better than ever. But this is a sim that was released with planes incorporating AP and advanced NAV so why, after 9 months, do these things not work accurately?

So there’s the mixed feelings. I fire it up occasionally (especially after each update) to enjoy the realism of the world you can fly in. Then one of these major bugs happens and I shut it down.
It was touted as the next generation of flight sims, not just a pretty game.
When the aircraft systems and ATC matches the accuracy of the world graphics, I will consider it a great sim.

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I love FS2020.

I don’t fly the heavies.

Overall, I’ve been completely satisfied.

The visuals are good, although the photogrammetry was better a few updates back for some reason. Either way, it’s still way better than any other sim in that regard.

Updates and patches are released slower than most modern games, with no sense of urgency for basic “quality of life” improvement’s people have been asking for since release. The past Sim Updates have been underwhelming, so I’ve set my expectations accordingly.

As for performance, I’ve had zero issues. I was able to run it on Ultra settings at launch, bud had to dial back to “High End” after a few updates. I’m not bothered by that. I’ve not experienced most of the problems that other people have, including the slow downloads.

I love the live weather. Most of the issues it had in the beginning have been resolved. I’m well enough satisfied with it’s current state.

Now for the catch. Stability. I AM among the many people suffering from the random CTD issues. I’ve cut down my use my 90% because there’s no motivation to fly when it might CTD after 2 hours for no reason. I don’t even have to start the aircraft. I can just load into an airport and never touch a thing. It’ll CTD somewhere between 5 min and 2 hours. Everything was fine until February, and it seems to be completely random on who it affects. One 3rd party developer stated that he’s not affected, but several members of their development team are, with no commonalities to suggest it’s on the users end. The CTD issue is making it’s way to the top of the feedback chart, and Asobo/Microsoft hasn’t even acknowledged it.

I was 95% satisfied before stability issues started. I’m still satisfied with the sim as a whole, I just wish stability felt like it was getting the proper urgency.

With all that said, I own X-Plane 11, FSX: SE, and DCS. With all the issues that MSFS is experiencing, I’ll still never go back to one of those.

it gets worse every time they put an updates why don’t they just leave the sim alone instead of improving they are just messing up things if they want to update then fix the frames

How can anyone experiencing CTD’s be completely satisfied???
My complaints are in functions, like I said. I don’t normally get crashes or poor FPS. Crashes, i.e. not being able to complete a flight, are anything but “satisfactory”.
I do have hope. Sounds like Asobo is serious about fixing it. I’m just very disappointed in their abilities to deliver a true flight sim yet.

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You don’t get poor FPS? What are your system specs and sim settings? I have a top of the line machine and get awful FPS. My definition is anything under 60fps.

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I’m satisfied with the sim, but I’m not satisfied with the stability of the sim. It makes sense in my head, but I don’t know how to phrase it🙁

I hadn’t read your comment before posting mine. I haven’t experienced any bugs with AP, but I don’t fly airliners. I also don’t use the default ATC. I’ve been using Pilot2ATC since X-Plane 11.

There’s a lot of small things I want changed, which would fall under wishlist items. I don’t like the logbook popping up during shutdown. (Again, a feature I don’t use anyway. I use Simtoolkit Pro for my logbook) I would also like to see the world map undergo some major improvements… mostly the ability to have it be in satellite view all the way down to the airport so you can see where exactly the parking spots are. A very minor thing I’d like is the ability to open doors on default aircraft. A mod for the TBM achieved ability, but it hasn’t been done for any other default aircraft.

There’s a long list of things I’d like to see done, but most are minor, and I’m fairly patient. The CTD issue is my main gripe. Everyone who experiences the CTDs get the same event log, so I would’ve thought Microsoft would’ve been able to fix it months ago.

All flight sims are designed to run around 30 fps minimum. It’s not the same as a shooter or esports game. The goal is to adjust your settings to achieve no less than 30 fps. I average between 40-50 fps with no stutters on high settings at 1440p with a moderate system.

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