Why Not Let Asobo Run the World and Let Another Developer Incoporate the Aircraft and Flying?

I think that ASOBO has done a great job and should continue as is.

I do fly the WT CJ4 via the WT CJ4 Mod.

This seems ok.

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They already do. Notice all the third-party aircraft?
Asobo still have to do the physics and basic systems though and for that it is useful for them to have default aircraft. There is little point in them having default aircraft and hiding them from us.

I think they cut a lot of corners tbh. I’m not faulting them for doing so, but there are a lot of generic threads that link each aircraft, and I have yet to come across stellar reviews by actual pilots about how accurate these aircraft are. The base ATC is also mind-bogglingly similar to erlier sims. The sound logic, at least how the files and cfg is structured is also strikingly-similar to earlier sims too. The way scenery loads. The airport lighting at night from a distance- all of that is what appears to be carbon-copies of what, fs2000?

That being said- the world that Asobo created is spectacular, and there are no limits with how far they can take it or what can be injected to give it life. I just don’t think flying is their strong suit. I know it will be fine over time- but there is a really big piece missing from the comprehensive package of the sim. Maybe it’s the full-force of third parties, I donno, but it just seems that so many basic, obvious things that are foundational to aviation and obvious to pilots simply don’t exist in here yet.

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All I’ve ever expected was a reasonable and stable simulation of the takeoff, flight, and landing characteristics of an aircraft commonly flown in our skies in the 21st century… say the C172 or Cirrus SR22.

That has not happened.

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I get that from the WT CJ4.

I started with the Cessna 172 Skyhawk (G1000) but changed to the
WT CJ4 for the AP functionality.

Haven’t tried the default CJ4 since. But the posts here indicate a lot of changes
for it by Asobo.

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That’s exactly my point. We’re 6 months in, and we still have goofy problems that leave us scratching our heads. There was a point last week when technically, EVERY airplane in my hangar was broken to one degree or another. Every. Single. One.

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Climb and maintain FL270 expect 12000 ft and I was at 16 K feet. ATC works ok right? SageGoldfish543 watch out for the Defenders of Asobo. Never say anything bad or have a opionion. Me, everybody knows they are a software company trying to produce something over their heads. Dont count on a 3rd party source to help as they dont even invite any other weather programs good info on their SDK. I already bought the Sim what is the problem in letting someone else work on it to improve. PRIDE i guess?

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In an ideal world we could take the flight model from XP11 and place that into FS2020.

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Like so many of us, I’m still looking for things we expect in a flight simulator. I don’t need study-level default aircraft nor hyper-accurate specs. But we still have no working mixture in the Baron, backwards torque logic on turbines, ATC that ‘sort of’ works and other little bugs. I know those are on the honey-do list but it’s unfortunate that core functionality of flight is still broken 6 months after release. Scenery development seems king. It wouldn’t be acceptable if only some weapons worked in Call of Duty or if cars were buggy in Hot Pursuit. But I’m sure the code in MSFS is vastly larger and interconnected in a way that makes changes very difficult.

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Erm, what? That all sounds a little strange.

The main issue with ATC and FLs is that they generally need you to get to where they told you to be, before they issue a new FL. It is entirely possible that there were other aircraft between 12k and 27k and they wanted you to go over them.

What does that ALT 37,300 refer to in your pic?
Were you supposed to be at 37.3k?
Were they reducing you to a reasonable mid-point between where you were, and where you were supposed to be going to … (37-16)/2 = 10, and 10+16=26
That would (sort of) make sense, especially if there were other aircraft around between 16k and 25k

And no, I am not a “Defender of Asobo”.

I was at 37200 and was decending to make a landing. Another game bug as you see my airplane setting was 3900 ft. They had me desending to 16K and then ordered me back up to 27k before landing. Sim ATC does this all the time.

I heard that they have hired the Working Title Team.

Working Title team will improve the quality of the flight model ???

That is exactly how I feel about having to find a Mod to get an aircraft to function correctly. I wont do that, I expect the MSFS to get everything working as they originally intended. My community folder is empty and will stay that way until MSFS is working they way MS intended the final product to be.

I have a feeling that WT will be working on autopilots and systems. This is sorely needed in the sim, the big missing piece, and these folks are more than capable of doing that. This is great news!

I hope the WT guys are prepared for the barrage of toxic negativity that will soon be levelled at them when some control or screen doesn’t do what it should.

It’s definitely a excellent idea in my mind, asobo don’t appear to have the expertise or time to deal with the minutae of flight systems and avionics and have wisely subcontracted a specialised group to handle it.

Accurate systems modelling is a major rabbit hole I’d prefer asobo stay out and to be honest probably is of limited appeal to the large majority of the player base.

I’m looking forwards to asobo applying their skills towards further improving their weather depiction, scenery / autogen and underlying flight modelling.

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Yeah I agree- I think this move will free up a lot of resources and help teams to do what they’re good at. I have a lot of hope for the future of this sim- if we can survive the turmoil in the interim.

In a way, maybe the WT folks will be shielded from the negativity. They can just blend into the development house and ignore the forums:-)

I think they’re doing this. They may not admit it, but let’s face it, besides countless bugs, the only real value the Asobo team has added to the sim since launch is three world updates. All the good plane and Nav aid stuff has come from third parties.

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