As of right now, my testing with my 3 monitor setup and multiple pop out panels has my sim running at about 24-30fps (smooth)…40fps when in air…on medium settings. If I bump some settings to high it barely gets to 30fps at cruise alt, and forget about anything being ultra (stutters galore). I run a 3090 card, which back before I ventured into building a home cockpit that would give me 60fps on all ultra settings pretty regularly on my 49" ultra wide. But…the home cockpit bug got to me and so there’s no turning back.
I can deal with 24-30 smooth fps, but eventually I’d like to get the graphic settings back to high/ultra to really take advantage of what makes this sim great. Whether that comes in the form of a better graphics card, I don’t know, but I do know that something like wideview caught my attention. I do have another PC laying around with a 2060 card in it, and knowing that doing the “render window” option to populate my two side monitors is what really tanks performance I wondered about utilizing that PC…either to handle those side views, or whatever. My first thought was to use YourControls and just join the PCs that way (yes, I know I’d need a separate instance/sign on of MSFS for the other computer for all these options, I’m ok with that). Then I stumbled upon Wideview and have read some posts here about people using it, and if it works as well as it seems I just can’t believe more people haven’t done it. I guess maybe it’s the fact that you do need a whole other (decent) PC plus MSFS license, but like I said seeing as how I do have that extra PC I think maybe this is worth a go. Again, considering it works like it appears.
Does anyone have any recent experience with it they could share in their home cockpit? Maybe with a setup similar to mine with 3 views (monitors) and numerous pop out panel monitors? Like I said, I think the same thing could theoretically be done using YourControls, but if this Wideview program truly does work well and is efficient, I’m thinking about trying it. Any advice/opinions are greatly appreciated!
Haha, I guess! For right now, I’m just doing the built in “render window” function in MSFS. I just add two for the side windows. It’s not bad at all, like I said in the original post I can get 24-30 smooth fps, with only the occasional stutter here and there. I think for now I’ll just use it as is and see if they eventually make any updates to the cockpit/additional views functionality and make it a bit more efficient.
As far as I know, yourcontrols effectively flies another aircraft using the same settings and control inputs. Any differences in ai generated traffic, weather etc would give different results on either system. I rather doubt it would work well enough. Do you know anyone local so you could borrow their MSFS system to test?
I have a 3x1080p monitor + 3x 1080p air manager screens setup running off a 3080 and I get 30fps (capped) with the settings mostly at high or higher. I wonder why you don’t.
Im planning do a setup
Here is my plan
I have two rigs
The first will get only outside view so i will dissable cockpit by edit the airplanes model.cfg
Also on this systeem i will use opentrack for ir tracking.
This will be shortthrow beamer projection on a selfmade projectscreen with 2.20 m wide and 1.20 height.
So i will be able to look around outside
Edit model.cfg i can exclude the exterior and interior or i can exclude interior only will see
Now the second system
Will run 2 graphicscards 3060 ti and will drive 7 monitors at least
This i will use for showing cockpit and overhead panels
And wil. Also have opentrack but differently configured and in reverse of the first system
(Turn your head slowly and try to see what i mean) the two systems will go > < against each other
But on different speed with only one movement of the head so i will have a lot of tweaking to do
Also i will have to make adaptions on the yxz axisses in the planes cfg
This will be not much problem
On both machines will run version of MSFS boxed versions each there own copy
But im not sure of wideview yet how to make this work because 2copy of MSFS from the same account on 2 different pc in the same network at the same time might require some more study before trail and error.
So first i will try this with 1 version run on 2 pc in the same network from different xbox account
To see if they run at the same time.
I will use fsuipc and wideview the last i will try the demo first
Short 10 min will give enough info i reckon.
This is all in my head and this is the first time i wrote it down
Seperatly the machines are working on the same account but not at the same time yet.
But this will become slowly slowly.
The second machine will be master
I will let you know when there is progress
For now after su12 there is to many ctd as you can read in other posted topics.
I did some experimentals with bought version of wideview and 2nd licence of msfs for 2nd pc
Also did some experimentals with shared cockpit vs wideview and for freeware im not dissapointent
For this works very good ,
I would recommend shared cockpit and when you havea second pc catching dust try to get them together and expand your view to wing or spot view it is fun
The next things im gonna try specifically for wideview is to trying to create some intranet zone
For i need to reroute on dedicated lan.
Because when looking at my taskmanager it seems all thing mixing up on 1 lan/wifi port
While i want msfs streams on wifi and wideview on lan, but i do not know yet how to route this apart from each other.
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You need a program “remote flight server” I’ve been looking around on my Xbox can’t find it in the store. I’m using on my pc without problems, nice system.
I tried both wideview and your controls and im not dissapointed about your controls at alll
and it is freeware, from the same homeadress and server like west europe,
The weather is the same and if not on multiplayer, realtime airtraffic is the same
This goes for wideview the same, although i find wideview a bit more complex and knowledge of network comes in handy while your controls is pretty much install and play.
Here is a video about two pc connected thru wideview
It a bit blue(ish) because the of the camera which films
But colours on the monitors are much better
Any way performing a 2 time upside down roll
Watch after the second roll how it picks up speed
Hi @PHSepp796 , I’m interested in recycling my old 7800X for using in WideView setup to display side views for my cockpit.
Whilst I’ve read the manual and think I have a reasonable understanding of how to setup the software and whats required, I was hoping you could run me through what you need to do to get setup for each flight?
Both PC’s on and manually start MSFS on both (So I presume you have a keyboard and mouse setup to the second PC to be able to manually do this).
Once both PC’s are loaded into MSFS, I presume you have to manually setup the client PC to the same Gate/Location and in the same aircraft as on the client?
Once both PC’s are setup at the gate, WideView can take over and essentially slew the client aicraft around to keep it alligned to the server?
I’m trying to think how to minimise the amount of “stuff” I have to setup. I’m thinking a KVS switch or similar connected to both PC’s so that I can use the same keyboard and house rather than having to pickup and put down another keyboard/mouse when I want to setup the client.
Your approach seems right to me.
The main thing i do with mouse and keyboard on the client is the tunning of the view.
Also i use it to control ui generals.
So if it is possible with kvm switch it will save desktop space
All input for sim commands will follow on the client as far as i know if flaps and gears are enabled in wideview interface, the weather will be the same on both pc if you are on the same server as far as i can tell.
Thanks mate - So the weather in MSFS should replicate accross both systems? I feared that if it was live weather whilst it might more or less be similar, clouds would be different. Does the exactly weather replicate accross both systems with WideView? I thought that was just with P3D.
Also, do you know if the Fenix or PMDG aircraft can be used on both PC’s? I need the virtual cockpit so would need to load both on the client as well.
After update the pmdg 737-800 (bought on the pdmg site not marketplace) i copied the plane from the community folder where it housed since installed, i copied to the 2nd pc msfs ( which have different xbox account) to it community folder and works fine.(same goes for the Pdmg’s dc6)
I think it does not work with marketplace version.
Which was in my case with carenaro c182 rg this i bought on marketplace and had to buy a second copy for the 2nd pc
For the fenix i do not know.
But ive noticed when i got redwings citroën fantomas (it was for free to get on simmarket) this did not worked because it was located in the official folder
It had to be intalled by simmarkets own dowload and install app. (I quess it has to do to prevent to copy) wonder also if this have something to do with upcomming 2024 version.
So far this hold me from buying L1049 which seems an awesome plane to me
For concearning weather according live this is overall and if from/on the same server say europe west, this should be working as similair with same type of clouds and winds it uses the same data in the same timeframe so data transfer through wideview should hold up as such.
Hint
If you experience stutter through wideview (i mean on the second pc client compared to 1st pc ) consider to run yourcontrols/shared cockpit next to it (i have good results with it).
Thanks Sebastian, I build the second PC this evening as I only really needed a second motherboard. I still need to buy a new video card and I’m still deciding how powerful one to get. I use three TVs and I’d like to keep the main (centre) one as the server but have the left and right as the client. I’m not sure if I can do this with Wideview because the screens won’t be next to each other. Also, I’m not sure how much processing power (either CPU or GPU) the client really needs. I’ve got a 4090 in my server, I’m thinking maybe a 4070 Ti for the client…
Are you using render window on your client (I assume you are in MSFS)? I have a server pc getting 80 fps with 3 monitors.
The client is also getting 80 fps with MSFS and a monitor and 3 32" insignia tvs.
I haven’t tried WidevieW yet but assume if the client is running MSFS with the aircraft rendered on three windows (left, center, right, infront of the windshield), WidevieW and Traffic will drive the client as shown in your video.
If you use a different technique in your client, please let me know?
So 1st pc 4090 will be master with front view, set up with zoom in place where you want.
and determent to seat position by translate left or right (right or co pilot by default)
Now 2nd client pc 4070ti 2 screens 1 left and 1 right
Depend on where you have positioned and derterment your main frontview on masterpc
The 2nd pc (client) has main window it is up to you if it will be the left or the rightview.
But for what you decide from there setup zoom to match the master pc and position with translate on this client.
When it it zoomed and positioned to your liking, bring up the experimental multiscreen in ui and create a 2nd window on the client pc. Then drag this to the second screen on the client, once position the window set it up with the sliders to where it needs to be, (the zoom is set and will be followed by 1st screen as described above.
Though there are more ways possible in different situations (like setup outside the airplane)
Make sure on both pc you have the same airplane for the setup
And try to set the same general overall settings
What i did in the video is the back 7 screens are the master driven by 2 3060ti cards and the top 3screens 21 inch are set as surround in nvidia cpl, which are seen as 1 screen on 1 3060, and 4 19 inch screen are individual so total screen on master pc is 5 screen (rendered screen)
Msfs is displayed windowed and stretch in wide over the screens with main on the 4 19 inch and the top screen is a created multiwindow, so 2 screen divided over 5 screens
On the second pc (wideview client ) has a 3090 with 2 24 inch monitor in surround that will be seen as 1 screen and use only main screen in msfs (so a second rendered screen)
Both pc have there own licenced copy of msfs with own xbox account
Now the client pc has all traffic sliders to 0 and no realtime or generic traffic, and no multiplayer
For there is no need for it since it is only for instrumentation and online it looks weird for people will see 2 planes on top of each other.
Both pc have there own camera and i use 1 headset for headtracking at the same time each with different settings to stay within their respective boundaries
I’m hoping for some advice - I’ve now got my SERVER and CLIENT setup with a copy of MSFS on each. Server is a 7950X3D with a 4090 and the client is a 7900X3D with a 4070 TI. Both with 64GB of 6000Mhz CL30 RAM. Suffice to say, performance with MSFS isn’t an issue.
What is an issue is that I cannot for the life of me get Wideview client OR server to get anything above about 15-30 Cycles per second. I’ve followed the guide in the manual that says I should be getting 250 or more but I’m no where near that. I’ve tried setting affinity for Wideview - no difference. Tried setting the priority manually in Windows - no difference.
This is what I’m seeing and getting…
Anybody had this issue before? The software itself seems pretty good and the results seem reasonable albeit there is stutters because I think of the poor cycles per second.
I’d like to buy Wideview but I’m not going to throw $100 at the software if its not going to work satisfactorily. I’ve emailed the author but so far no reply.
If it was only one PC I might be able to narrow it down, but its the same that its on BOTH PC’s
