Hello guys.
Just wanted to comment a bit about my flight sim experience in MSFS. I have been a flight sim user for several years, and I’m also a real life PP. I love this sim for several reasons and I enjoy every time I can get to fly. Back in the day, with FSX and P3D, I actually enjoyed flying the jets, among them the captain sim 757 and the fLY 737 or even the Wilco 737. I really loved the simplicity of some of those aircraft because I could fly quickly without spending an hour getting ready. I really want to be able to get on a nice jet and do a whole IFR plan without having to spent more time doing the planning rather than actually flying!
The PMDG 737 is a beautiful airplane as well as the Fenix A320, among others, but they, IMHO, take away a lot of the fun. Yo see, I don’t want to go on the sim and fly a Cessna 172 or a Piper or the many GA aircraft available on this sim because I can do that in real life. What I really want is to fly a nice jet, of which there were many on the previous sims, and I enjoy different kinds of flying, but I am not interested in going through the whole flight planning where I have to enter all the info on an FMC ( yes, I know about SimBrief) or going through fuel and weight balances. It seems to me they are now just focusing this sim only on the so called "study level " aircraft. Don’t get me wrong, they are a beauty, but I believe they should give some consideration to those of us who just want to have a less stressful and fun flight. I just which they could develop more aircraft, jets specially, that can be flown quick and easy.
I have an excellent PC that can handle any aircraft and scenery, but I do know for a fact that there are many users who spent lots of time just trying to learn the aircraft and then, when they are actually ready to fly, they end up with some software issues or CTD, either before the flight or during the flight. I was a very avid user of MSFS but I ended up loosing some interest and ended up playing other games. is really sad because I really do love this sim.
I tried the tutorial for the PMDG 737 but it was too long, too technical, and not very accurate. granted, there are videos and all that but again, it takes me back to my point. I spent too much doing all that when the one thing I want todo is just to fly!
The one aircraft that met those conditions while on FSX or P3D was the Captain Sim 757. I love that airplane! It wasn’t really a just sit and fly, but it was easy enough to get some cockpit work for pre flight and it was excellent on IFR approaches and landings. Another one, was the Wilco Publishing Embraer 170. Man I loved that plane, as well as the 135 and 145. Some times I just feel like I just should reinstall P3D just to be able to enjoy these aircraft again.
I hope you guys have a great time!
I can relate to some extent. You have to be prepared to have a real time-commitment planned in advance to fly the heavies. I don’t have the PMDG 737’s, but even the stock A310, 747, and 787 require me to “get myself psyched up” for the task because I know I’ve got a lot of setup time ahead of me. I like to plan via Simbrief, decide how I want to import the plan, go through all the FMS setup, boarding/payload work, taxi, etc… It’s not a small task. It makes me less inclined to fly them, even though they are great aircraft with some good system simulations.
These days, if I want jet flights, I’ve been tending to the CJ4 because you can be up in the air really quickly since setup time is pretty minimal.
Taking a break for a while also works for me sometimes. You don’t want to burn yourself out! Hope you find the right balance.
Wh ynot ust fly the default A320n? It’s a piece of cake to fly, flies well and you even have to land it yourself. With baked in flight planner you can get up and going in minutes
Yes. I think a break willt help. I tried the Longitude and CJ4 as well, but being that particular type of aircraft, can give me just some of what I’m looking for. Also, there are so many addons for this sim, you really have to be careful because no matter how good a system you have, it can give you a lot of headaches.
I’ll give a try later on and hopefully it will have some different aircraft. (
Tried that one too. It seems to have some issues although I haven’t fly this plane in a while.
The default planner. I have the PMDG 737 too and when I just want to fly something quick without a lot of headache and preflight planning I’ll fly the the default neo. It gives me a nice break.
Hi,
With the pmdg one does have the option of starting the airliner with it up and running ready to go, you do not have to start the sim cold and dark. You can kick the tires and go, I’ve done it many times while testing various beta items.
I wasn’t crazy about the tutorials out there so I created a video that gets rid of all the nonsense and tells you how to program the CDU. I can now setup the CDU/FMC within minutes. Also note that with Sim brief, you can download the flight plan and weather data so you can import them right into the CDU/FMC, so they made it easier to program.
Want a no nonsense approach to programming the Boeing CDU/FMC, have a look at my video below. It will get you up quickly.
#Flight Planning via FlightAware, Simbrief, Topcat, Zibo-EFB and the FMC
Thanks I’ll check it out!
Similarly the BAe 146 has a ready to go option on the iPad thingy. Might be worth a shout. I’m slightly biased as I learned the 146 and Avro start up process from the BAe Panel Project back in the day, so it only takes me a few minutes to start her up from cold and dark.
Good luck with whatever direction you choose. 
There are plenty of excellent jets that you can just jump into and fly. My favourite would be the vision jet. Best for scenic flying too. If you want to travel faster in the air then plenty of faster bizjets.
If you really mean airliners then the default A320 is simple and only takes a few minutes, or probably anything from captain sim.
Most have the option to quick start, even the fenix.
Also one you’ve learnt how to fly them, the airliners are a lot quicker to get going. Simbrief defaults to a 30min setup time before pushback and in the Fenix even with GSX loading fuel, catering, and watching the passengers walk on, I can depart on time. Sometimes I even forgo the various download and auto sync buttons and enter everything by hand into the MCDU and perf calculators, which certainly ups the ante but can be fun too. Entering a route by just bashing in the airways is very fast.
The A320 is relatively quick because the checklists are very short IRL, and the plane does the important checklists for you. As long as you learn the flows for the setup procedures it’s quick and easy. I use the latest Airbus certified procedures and checklist which they simplified even further a couple of years ago.
Which jets in real life do that?
I disagree with your post because the scope of a flight simulator is exactly that: provide an experience as close as possible to the real thing .
Anyway, if you don’t want to prepare the aircraft for the flight, just spawn on the runway, give full throttle, takeoff and follow the GPS. Or switch to GTA 5…
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to simulate the flying but not the setup. Not everyone likes pressing buttons. As noted this is already possible with most aircraft in the sim, start on the runway, Ctrl-E, or use EFB quickstart where present.
I think the only aircraft I ever start from cold and dark is the FBW A320, mainly because it was the jet I used for the longest since FS2020 released so I’m
just used to it. The others such as Fenix and PMDG are ready to go after punching in a few numbers. I’m thankful for these startup options as I just don’t have the time.
I remember in FSX before all these fancy MCDUs and the like, I’d just push back, set NDU to GPS mode, ctrl + E the engines and off off Iwent, not once thinking, “this doesn’t seem realistic”. Then FS2020 came, *insert Obi Wan gif “oh this is going to be easy”, and I was immediately schooled. 
Exactly, no need to dedicate resources to develop something else.
As I mentioned on my post for me is not about so much getting close to real life. I fly GA on a regular basis in real life and that’s good enough for me. I do flight planning when I go for longer flights and have to do the regular procedures. I can understand for someone who has never flown a real aircraft to try and do a flight as close as possible to real life in the sim, but in my case, I am not interested in spending too much time doing the whole thing on an A320 or any other major airliner. As a friend of mine told me, who flies for Jet Blue in real life, he is not interested in doing any of the preflight procedures or all the in dept flight planning on the sim. He just wants to fly! Of course, in his case he does in real life what I don’t want to do and he likes to fly GA in the sim. In my case, I love to fly the TBM and the PC 12 or the Kodiak. I think they are really cool for regional flights and with the Kodiak you do some flight planning. If you’re not a real life pilot I can understand your statement, and you can of course disagree but that is not my case, and no, I am not interested in just spawning the aircraft on the runway. I do want to do the whole flight from beginning to end. Perhaps if you read my initial post you’ll see my comments.
I’m sorry. This replay was intended for KnightofNi312
I was like you. I think the reason I drifted away from the default A320 was all the bugs I encountered. One of the main issues I found was with the autopilot, specially when I wanted to change altitude or tried to change heading. it just didn’t want to do it and just remained leveled. It was a constant problem and really got on my nerves. I flew the FBW a couple of times as well and is a nice aircraft, specially for a free one. In all honesty, I haven’t try the 777 or the 767 perhaps because I saw many negative posts about the performance, but I will give it a try and make my own judgment, as it should be. The other one I tried were the CRJ and the FlightSim Studio but I was not impressed. I bought the 175 when it first came out and really hasn’t improved much ever since, specially for that price.
I’m confused (doesn’t take much), I never said anything about spawning on the runway. 
Aaaaaw… FINALLY the sim is fully focusing on study level aircraft and can therefore unleash it´s full potential. 
To be honest I was so fed up with all kind of simpleton planes, because the true challenge of flying a simulator is mastering the cockpit systems the computer the MCDU - aaaaw lovely.
What could be more stressful than flying an aircraft by hand - instead of having a perfect pre-programmed flight route with perfect managed constraints, finished by a perfect ILS-autolanding with auto-brake set to medium?
A feast for all cockpit system conoisseurs and Maître d’MCDU!
As I suggested before, it takes all sorts.
Sorry man I meant to reply to MrFuzzy1337 about his comment, not you.