Then you haven’t been reading. Spawning inside buildings, using the skip function to spawn in the side of a mountain, having a crash detected with a tree or building when no impact happened, getting flap overspeed deductions when standing still, hold short boxes in the wrong locations, and the multitude of other problems with career mode are most certainly not a result of a bad PC setup or lack of skill.
I get that reading is hard sometimes and it’s easy to skip whole paragraphs but to reiterate, I said they have not affected me. I don’t use skip function. You lose way too much credits/xp using that. I do not fly close enough to trees that they can reach out and “get” me. They fixed the spawning inside buildings thing for the most part before it happened to me. I did spawn right in front of a building once. I could see that it might be a bit complex to get the plane out of that situation without slew. I simply backed out and picked up a different mission.
Short boxes in wrong locations are usually easy to find. Just stop as you begin to move off the runway if the runway is small and you don’t see it right in front of you it can be hidden there. I’d need to see a video of overspeed deductions when standing still to believe that’s even a thing.
I did not say it was bug free. There’s a ton of bugs. They just don’t affect my fun because they don’t cost me “significant” money. If I do miss a hold short, the cost is negligible.
Probably only about 70% of your issues are user error. Knowing you… ![]()
Seriously though, Career Mode is my favorite part of 2024 right now. Perfect? No. Buggy? Sometimes hilariously so (but SO much better than it was upon release).
But I get joy from taking off and landing in random places, unlocking the map and different career paths.
Bugs and all, I keep coming back.
Something about flying the trusty 172 in a new sim feels like tradition.
Clearly, I have a higher tolerance for bugs than many here though, and I can not in good faith pretend Career Mode is bug free.
Well, this is a thing, which is lovely
Apparently you can’t just do what you want, or fly how you want. Once I cleared the weather, I canceled my IFR flight plan and was going to fly the rest of the flight VFR direct. Nope.
Very realistic.
There is undeniably some user error. But when so much is broken within the sim, it is very difficult to see the wood for the trees.
I’ve experienced - and this is today, these are not saved up:
- Visual glitches
- ATC nonsense
- A penalty for landing at the correct arrival airport
- A crash on the parking stand
Don’t get me wrong, I am gaining stubborn enjoyment from the sim, but it goes beyond flight simulation. ![]()
I’m in the same boat as you, where the bugs mostly haven’t affected me personally. The worst was the non-contact crash in the 208B when the parking spot was right next to a hanger and you had to get close (but still 5-10ft away) to it to get in.
Where we differ is you insinuated that all the problems caused by the bugs were mostly a result of human error/skill and not the bugs.
This happened to me once and I dug around and found that pushback is available to, if not all planes, at least the C172 via ALT-P (2024 key bindings) or SHIFT-P (2020 bindings).
Cheers
I think a lot of the “user errors” are actually due to a lack of documentation.
See CharlieFox00’s work on how the weather system works. Thanks to his insights I was able to fly for several hours today with the weather working as I expected it would.
Cheers
Do you have a link ?
What the actual …?
Just selected a ferry mission and on starting it, was greeted with a you’ve crashed notification and on restarting, got taken back to HQ, via what looked like an exception report, to find that my reputation had been hammered.
Not an overly well-written mission spawning algorithm, I’d suggest. ![]()
Bought a 2nd aircraft (a Vision Jet for VIP work). Building up a buffer (with 2 planes) starts to ease the tension of being hung out to dry if I have another crash.
I’m unashamedly taking very safe jobs from long runway to long runway, away from coastlines and mountainsides… ![]()
Good idea! I just sold two 172s and bought the Vision-jet. I have enough to buy another 172 if I crash the Vision-Jet, but if not, I want to save for something better.
I want to upgrade from the standard game pass version to the premium deluxe edition for the additional career mode planes that I can use. I wanna see if anyone else has tried it. The last thing I wanna do is upgrade then lose all my progress in career mode. Can anyone confirm that this wouldn’t be an issue?
At this time, career only works with Standard planes so don’t go getting premium deluxe thinking you’ll get more planes in career!
And you will not lose progress upgrading.
I know the PC-24 isn’t perfect but it’s been getting better with the patches hasn’t it? I’m sure it isn’t perfect but neither is the PC-12 and I love flying it
Picked up a set of parachuters from a relatively nearby airport, EPJS, in the old and trusted 172. Aside from wishing I knew the altitude to climb beforehand, everything went well - unfortunately, until the landing.
Because I forgot to mention that EPJS is primarily a glider and an ultralight airport, located atop a hill (50.944260, 15.764104 for viewer purposes). Obviously MSFS wanted me to land down the steepest slope to give me a challenge.
Two burnt down landing gears later FS gave me mercy, and I learned the perils of mountain flying
In the ongoing effort to navigate mission-based immersion busters, I’ve worked out another of several contingency plans.
Scenario:
- EFB and overhead planning map specify a destination runway.
- Visual ‘Final’ flag on approach points to that same runway.
- Windsock also supports this runway.
- Approach & get on profile for the definitely-is-the-right-one runway.
Gotcha:
- As soon as you cross final and get the cue to radio your intentions, your specified runway is switched to the opposite runway.
- I missed cluing in to this last second change on three separate flights, getting dinged on the old Airline Procedures deal each time before finally realizing the pattern.
- All of these have happened after I sought calm winds in Mexico earlier this week, along with a couple other sad airport tendencies. Land of the Lost Metadata down there I guess.
Resolution:
- I’ve decided to treat this bug as though on short final and spotting a deer or buffalo or hobo on the runway threshold and circling to land.
- Just 100% tune into that radio call & be ready for it to happen on every short final now.
Agree with these findings. I experimented a bit and found if you manually specify the runway and make the final call using the ATC window, it still counts (turns green) in the mission objectives and doesn’t ding you when you land. You can apparently do this after you messed up by auto-responding a final call that switches the runways like you said. Just pull up the ATC window, change runways, and call final again. I’d like to try it a couple more times to make sure it’s 100% repeatable.
Even if it’s 100% verifiable as a workaround, it is still kludgy because you’re doing this while trying to maintain a stabilized approach on short final which is no good.


