2024 still a disappointment!

After months of not playing 2024, I went on today to see if anything had changed…unfortunately it seems like it hasn’t!

The world map still glitches to darkness and or freezes

The EFB does not transfer the information to the aircraft most of the time and the performance calculator does not work.

I flew the Skywagon and it was OK, The Vision Jet was “glued” to the apron so I had to use slew mode to free it.

ATC is still a mess and my pilot sounds drunk when responding, slurring and mispronunciation of words?

Most key bindings work bar landing lights, autopilot and ATC panel? Matched with 2020 so I’m not sure what’s going on!

5 months on and the very basics are not fixed? I’m so happy I didn’t spend €150+ on what is basically an advanced arcade flight game and thank the lord I have FS2020, which is running perfectly :folded_hands:

In 24 the aircraft look great, the scenery is beautiful and the weather and clouds are amazing…apart from this, it’s not fully usable.

I don’t have a lot of addons or mesh packs etc so any transfers can’t be having that much of a negative affect, or can they?

Anyway, it’s back to 2020 and I’ll wait another few months before going back to 24 :pensive_face:

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To be honest at first i thought the same as you.

But at my end it has improved a lot. Especially less connections issues and freezes. Although it still is not flawless it is way better.

I really hope they can get the blurryness and vram issues out of this sim, because that is really still bothering me.
And yes, after almost every update my bindings are changed and ATC is still a big mess.
But for me it is now more or less the same, although not every 3th party thing is already implemented in 2024 oc between 2020 and 2024 so i guess if the next SU is a big improvement again i might want to risk the step to go over to 2024

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SU2 is showing promise, based on the feedback here. Things may start turning around soon.

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SU2 is stable on my machine, I can complete Vatsim flights without major issues. However, every landing ends with severe stutters which makes the sim kind of useless for online flying. Love the clouds, the fast loading times and sharp textures.

The marketplace is dead to me, I can’t stand the UI and clumsy navigation. Does not inspire me to buy a new aircraft or airport.

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Okay… See you soon, I guess?

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Great contribution :+1::roll_eyes:

5 months on and the world map glitches and I can’t refuel using EFB or Fuel box, never mind the dozens of other issues I’ve had.I suppose that’s ok for a flight simulator that’s years in development and then sold to the public?

The fact I haven’t gone near 24 in months, only today to find that little has changed is a bit disappointing

The EFB is there to plan your flight and set your fuel, cargo pax and calculate takeoff performance ect. Whether you fly a microlight or a 747, the above is the same and it’s the very basics of being an aviator! If a flight simulator cannot get this right, then can you even call it a flight simulator?

And yes, of course you could do these calculations on paper, but then why implement an EFB that never seems to work!

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SU2 beta has been very good to me. Performance is very good (I never thought I’d still be able to use my old 1080 for FS2024), it’s been very stable, and overall I’ve been happy. The EFB in particular has had a lot of updates in SU2 (I rarely use it since I mostly fly GA, so I can’t speak to just how much it’s improved, but the last beta patch was all about the EFB.) Might be worth a revisit after SU2 releases which is theoretically this month or possibly early May.

I’ve never had issues with the world map, so I’m not sure what that’s all about. Hope they get the stuff holding you back fixed! I can definitely understand your frustration even if I don’t fully share it at this point.

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If you really think this, you most likely are running something either not compatible or your sim updated but might have been corrupted. I remember there was issues on the servers side that pushed bad files if I recall. Best thing to do is do a clean reinstall of 2024.

Reason I say this also is because for me at least, like others have said it is still not perfect, but SU1 has tremendously improved 2024. No crashes for me and performance are actually way and I mean way better in 2024 for me than 2020. I see almost double the framerates in 2024 using the same settings I used in 2020 into 2024. Many are saying SU2 is another promising update and is looking really good now. For SU3 which they said will be worked on as soon as SU2 releases is an all bug fixing patch only meaning they are going to concentrate on fixing a majority of the bugs present and if memory serves well, it should be the update that will allow us to download items in the sim locally rather than rely only on streaming.

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For me, 2024 works pretty well most of the time as long as I mind the graphics settings I’m using and adjust them based on aircraft/airport. For most GA aircraft and small non-handcrafted airports, I can set TAA with a mix of medium and high graphics plus TLOD of 200 or so, and the sim runs great. For airliners I have to switch to DLSS, TLOD 50-100 depending on the plane, most graphics on medium. There are exceptions for me, like the Fenix or Ini A350, where I have to choose lower settings to get acceptable performance – but my GPU is a lowly 4060 with 8G VRAM, so I know what I’m in for.

As far as the specific issue of the EFB loading/not loading fuel and payload, that varies by plane. If I add only fuel and passengers, it never fails for me – when I add cargo, it gives me a failure message in some planes. I’ve read somewhere on these forums that the message is an error and the cargo is, in fact, loaded, but I have never tested whether that’s true.

As far as crashes go, almost every crash I get is due to the Ini A350 – I install it every few updates to see if the problem is remedied, and it still isn’t. Aside from that one plane, my CTDs are rare.

Of course, everybody’s system and situation is different and MSFS 2024 seems to make every effort to highlight this fact by working completely differently on identical or nearly identical systems. If you haven’t done a clean reinstall already, I urge you to do one now, because while the sim was awful in many ways at launch, it seems to have improved for most people – although there’s still plenty of work to be done.

And I imagine you’ve already done this, but make sure to try it with an empty Community folder, just in case you have a conflict somewhere.

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It has improved some but still has a long way to go to get to the point it should have been at release.

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To each his own.

I don’t see myself playing MSFS 2020 and will probably delete it as I never play it anymore. I’ve been sinking all my hours in 2024 and having a blast.

Yes, it took a looooong time to dial in the settings, bindings, etc. A lot of trial and error. Even found some stuff that was on me, e.g., I had a gaming controller that I wasn’t using plugged in with stick drift and it was causing a host of issues while I was wondering what was wrong with my stick/yoke and such.

I’m having a blast with the Comanche, Kodiak, helicopters, Cessna 414, Vison Jet, Cows DA-42.

So yea, different strokes for different folks. But I’m really enjoying 2024.

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I’m almost ready to buy. With all the mention of errors I haven’t been in rush. Crazy that it was announced Jun 2023 and I might finally buy it two years later.

Mainly I’m slow because I have a 5700x3d processor I bought that has been sitting in a box for 2 months. As soon as I get around to installing it and then see how 2020 works with it, I’ll go for it. At this pace it might be at SU3 before I buy. Thanks to all you beta testers!

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I’d like to ask those using SU Beta if the “tree issues” have improved. I fly only light GA low and slow to explore and my often times my whole region is tree covered. Following a railroad or a waterway is disappointing as well as smaller urban areas. Has there been an improvement in this issue?
Thanks

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MSFS 2024 SU1 has improved quite a bit since the launch in November. While I’m waiting for the official support of Fenix A320, I’ve managed to survive with the iniBuilds A350.

Many of the planes are usable, though problems still exist. The Boeings in the sim are awful and the 747 and 787 have regressed compared to MSFS 2020.

With that said, MSFS 2024 SU 1 has been much better to the point where I’m spending more time in MSFS 2024 than MSFS 2020. Probably a ratio of 60:40.

Thanks, but how did you get the Comanche into 2024?
Also, I don’t know about you, but I find the night lighting way too bright. I develop airports and those that I did lighting for in 2020 are off the scale in 2024. The general pixel strength needs to come down. This may be the plane developers but I find the prop shadows really awful in 2024. The human eye does not operate at 24 fms per second so humans don’t see the shadows period. They are caused when video or film is shot of a turning prop and the frames don’t synch. Added to that there are so many airports that I purchased in 2020 that are not available in 2024. Not great

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Sometimes we can get flicker vertigo when the prop is directly between us and the sun, but other than that it looks really gamish.

Not OP, but I’ve moved the Comanche over as well. Simple as copying the files to the new community folder as well as downloading a small patch from the A2A forums.

Moving it to 2024: https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77310

The hotfix: https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77335

As Pax said, I just copied the Comanche folder from the 2020 community folder and pasted it into the 2024 community folder. (I confirmed I had the latest version of it by checking the A2A website). Have done that for the Wilga, Kodiak, Cessna 414 and FSR 500. and all work (I “enabled” them in my library in the sim.) The Comanche seems to be 99% there and no material issues. I use the PMS Garmin instead of TDS though as I heard the TDS has issues. But overall flies flawlessly.

I think by and large the scenery is much better in 2024. Still some wonky bugs and issues with scenery (e.g., boats moored at show seem to be underwater), but I’d say a lot of the stuff looks really good (especially in the mountains and rural areas).

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Don’t recognise any of these issues

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[quote=“flyflexby, post:4, topic:716627”]
the fast loading times and sharp
You think “the fast loading times and sharp.” I see lots of black screens while waiting for things to happen. The streaming idea is pretty bad. How long do they think we are going to sit here and enjoy a spinning thingie? So screw that! There are to many things that waste our time. Has everyone got the silly text memorized from the dispatcher yet? Are we having fun watching the clown pilot watch the plane? I doubt there will be a game we thought we paid for by November 2025! Enough for now.

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