9800X3D 21% faster than the 7800X3D - 1080p highest + Turbo

Here is it, maybe I forgot something relevant also. (Could you do that with the 14900 to compare?)

9800X3D stock, X870-i
Standard FS20 F-18, initial VC position
Start on default KJFK RWY 31L
10:00 AM local hour,
Vsync on,
Nvidia Low Latency off, Nvidia control panel default
Framerate limit 100% monitor refresh,
1440p 144Hz,
Traffic AI off,
Weather preset few clouds,
online users off,
TAA,
DX11
LODs 200,
all maxed out,
Lens correction off
(Wait some second till CPU is stabilized in the Task manager graphic, after being more maxed loading the flight).

Unfortunately Iā€™ve uninstalled 2020 for 2024

Do you remember to have some cores full load like me with the 13900, and not like the 7/9800x3d?, and like always was normal in my all former intel and in other Flight Simulators, first time I am in AMD.

None of the occupied M.2 slots will limit the primary PCI_E1 graphics card slot. Only the drive in the M2_3 slot will reduce the PCI_E3 slot to x2 speeds. If you select x4 for PCI_E3 in the BIOS, the M2_3 slot will be disabled.

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no thank you, iā€™ll keep my old 5950x and play in 4k DLAA ultra w/ 8k shadows and 100+fps. why even test on 1080 let alone 720?

to be fair, i only ever watch jay or linus when iā€™m in the mood for some cringe. never for actual advice.

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According to this news, it looks like the upcoming 9950x3D will be based on the same architecture as the 7950x3D: https://pokde.net/system/pc/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-9900x3d-late-jan-2025

Only one CCD is going to sport the 3D cache. This means that the 9800x3D will probably remain the best choice for FS 2024 for the time beingā€¦

What makes you think the 3D cache has any benefit for MSFS2024? So far I donā€™t see anyā€¦ in fact an 7950X outperforms a 3D cache version.

It appears 9950X3D will not have 3D V-Cache on each chiplet, same as 7950X3D.

However, the new generation 3D V-Cache is now located below the processor cores, and that allows better cooling efficiency.

We donā€™t know yet what the advertised clock speeds will be on 9950X3D. This is where it could potentially bring a gaming performance uplift compared to 9800X3D, thanks to the ā€˜reversedā€™ location of the V-Cache compared to Ryzen 7000.

Weā€™ll see whether or not that affects performance in MSFS.

Do you have any benchmarks which support your claim? Iā€™m seeing the opposite here: Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 - PC performance graphics benchmarks of Graphics Cards and Processors | Racing Simulators / Racing | TEST GPU (at the bottom). x3D CPUs definitely perform better in this benchmark.

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First time seeing this. This is an interesting graph for several reasons. Seeing a 14900K match the 7800X3D in 1% lows is surprising and unexpected, as prior benchmarks for 2020 showed massive gains. It would seem to suggest the performance uplift from X3D chips in MSFS2024 isnā€™t quite as strong as MSFS2020.

I always speculated that the massive performance gains from having huge L3 cache would probably be less pronounced once the MSFS engine is optimized more in terms of multithreading. Once you start alleviating that CPU bottleneck that was notorious in MSFS2020, that L3 cache becomes less helpful.

However, itā€™s only one benchmark set. It would be interesting to see more trickle in.

Who games at 1920x1080? Show me some results in 4K. I have two systems, both with 4090 and both using 4k, and I know from my own tests the non-3D cache CPU is performing better.

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CPU benchmarks are done at 1080p to force a CPU bottleneck. CPU benchmarks at 4K are largely useless, as usually itā€™s a GPU bottleneck controlling performance.

Iā€™m surprised people still donā€™t understand thisā€¦

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I fully understand it, I am saying at 4K my 7950X cpu out performs my X3d oneā€¦

So it looks like the Ryzen 7 9800x3d will likely be better than the Ryzen 9 7900X theyā€™re calling out in the ā€œidealā€ spec page?

Do it at 1080p instead to remove any variable of a GPU bottleneck.

I imagine the 9800X3D is still the best, but by a lesser margin in 2024 compared to 2020.

Why? I donā€™t play in less than 4Kā€¦ So it is pointless.

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In other words, you didnā€™t watch the video I posted and you clearly donā€™t understand the point of testing in 1080p.

Not much more to say here.

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Enjoy your CPU while taking to the virtual skies. Just a friendly reminder: this topic is about Ryzen 7 9800X3D not your Ryzen 9 7950X :wink:

I do understand the point, itā€™s you thatā€™s missing the point. Itā€™s of no use for those in 4K. Sure if youā€™re in 1080p, but who is these days? Canā€™t imagine many.