Just a friendly reminder this is a forum for debate, and I was debating the CPU’s mentioned in the topic.
To go back to one of your earlier claims, reviewers are not gaming. They are using games and other programs to test and evaluate the raw performance of a given component. The reason why is explained in that video linked above, so I won’t re-hash it all here.
The point you are missing is that there’s buying a CPU that delivers the performance you want today, and buying a CPU that delivers the performance you want for the long run so you are not feeling forced to upgrade every time a new one comes out. So yes it is absolutely of use to see those 1080p metrics even if you personally play in 4K. That lets you infer how much extra headroom you have for future enhancements and add-ons for something like this sim, or how much extra performance you could get from a future GPU upgrade.
If you are not in the market for a CPU, then those reviews are of no use to you either way. If you are in the market, then those reviews should be crucial to proper decision making.
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I fly VR the 9800x3d performance is exactly the same as a 14900 with a 4090 on high preset.
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Precisely.
Aren’t the lows better though? With the AMD chip
You may be GPU limited or you may be CPU limited. If you are GPU limited then having a better processor isn’t going to help because although it will still do the work faster it will just end up waiting and idling for the GPU to catch up.
FS20 was CPU limited for nearly everyone, FS24 is GPU limited for many people.
It’s not that the 3D cache doesn’t work or doesn’t help the game, it clearly and measurably does. But if you are GPU limited then any kind of faster CPU, whether by cache, cores, or clock speed, is going to have no difference to you fps. That doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the processor, just that you are not fully utilising it.
If you decide to buy a cheaper processor because that’s all you need then great. But repeatedly claiming that the 3D cache doesn’t work for FS24 is wrong, and some users who are not GPU limited will still benefit from the faster processor.
I don’t normally benchmark, just using dev mode fps, I see more red spikes in main thread for the 9800x3d vs the 14900. Going to check the 14900 again tomorrow
@TONYDARKZERO Try to disable fauna, it causes spikes at the moment.
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That isn’t what I said, so stop mis quoting me… You can scroll up and clearly see what I wrote.
So now that we are fairly sure the remaining 9000x3D will still have one normal CCD and one vcache, 9800x3d is probably the best choice for FS24, no? Assuming not a crazy amount of additional software running. Or is there some chance all those extra cores bring benefits still?
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If there is, I doubt it’ll be enough to justify the prices unless you just have money to burn.
Yeh this was my thinking. Im waiting on a 9800x3d preorder now.
Same here. The upcoming 9950x3D seems to be pointless for gaming, so I’m buying a 9800x3D.
Why pointless? Because of the mixed CCDs again?
Yes, same architecture as 7950x3D. Actually, it is not pointless (my bad). It just seems, at this point, that the 9800x3D is a more sensible and cost effective choice for gamers.
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My 9800X3D hasn’t been working as hard as I thought it would in 2024. It rarely goes above 50% and mostly sits in the late 20s / early 30s % range. Mind you that’s probably because I’ve only been flying VFR flights in remote areas because IMO 2024 isn’t ready yet for IFR in complex scenery, so that will probably boost the CPU load when I start flying these flights. I am otherwise flying IFR in complex scenery flights in 2020 still and 2020 loves the extra horsepower of the 9800X3D.
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Mine too, I don’t think I’ve seen it go over 50 watts in all my flights. I think at this point a 7800 or even a 5800 would perform exactly the same at 4K. I’m so GPU bound by my 4080S. The story might be different next year, I guess.
I’m VR I’m still main thread bound with a 4090
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I am too if I don’t use MR but as I do the 9800X3D has no trouble delivering the required min 40 FPS anywhere in 2020. 2024, not quite yet and it seems the GPU is to blame for that one.
I only have a 3060 which was fine in FS20 but it’s so GPU bound on FS24 I can’t even use framegen as that just lowers the raw framerate even lower. The annoying thing is that I’ve scaled back all of the settings I had in FS20 to lower quality and its still 100% busy. At least it has 12GB VRAM so I’m mostly managing to avoid the terrible VRAM exhausted fps issue.
I had been looking at a 9800X3D but this 7800X3D is just cruising, no processor upgrade is going to benefit me until I get a 5090 (hopefully).