“We decided not to focus on Xbox this time, but on the NEW PLATFORM, VR. That’s why the VR mode is so perfect this time round and definitely doesn’t contain any game-breaking bugs.” ![]()
I give the MS/Asobo guys credit for actually fixing something I reported as a bug in 2020 – the wildly incongruent terrain features. Remember that? Cliffs where there were none, even on flat areas, even on the surface of lakes–that was a good one. But they fixed it. Two more bugs – taxiway lights scattered at seemingly random locations, even down the centers of taxiways, and the airport beacons being on during daylight hours even when the weather at the field was above VFR minimums – those were never fixed in 2020, and I haven’t done enough with 2024 to establish if they’re still present. But it wouldn’t surprise me.
I have found two bugs that I have yet to see mentioned – in the General settings, in the VR section, there is no way to input a key or combination that will activate the toolbar. Right now it shows up as a question mark inside a dotted line box, like the kind of thing a programmer would do to remind himself to work on this before it’s released. No, the question mark doesn’t work, and you can’t change it to something that does.
The other problem is the taxiway lights – but it’s not the one I outlined above. IRL taxiway lights are small blue dots, almost pinpoints from any distance not directly on top of them. The ones in the sim are huge bluish flares with bright purple cores, so wrong as to be just ridiculous.
Note that I don’t expect the lights to be fixed, ever, but it would be nice to be able to call up the toolbar in VR. You know, sometime.
VR? Perfect? It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
There is a workaround for “Cannot unselect “streamed” packages in my library” I think this will help some bugs meanwhile we wait for marketplace launch.
edit: Fixed my 1st performance bug because of a weather/cloud addon. No more fps drops to near 20fps after disabling Live Weather! Thx to Orbx-weather-preset-pro! ıt shows only default presets now.
Btw there are 41 animals in Sim! wow! Even Pandas?!
It’s a strange design. The two “Bindings” sections in the VR Mode of the VR tab are merely informing you what the bindings are; you can’t change them there. You have to use the Controls tab.
There’s a button at the very bottom of the VR tab that’s described as being a shortcut to the Controls tab, but it does nothing when I press it. The Controls tab is only one button press away anyway so it’s all rather odd. Seems like the only meaningful buttons on the VR tab are “Switch to VR” and the “Grab yoke” setting.
Magenta, I already tried the location you described. Any commands put in there – I’ve tried several, thinking that the sim just didn’t like the keys or combinations I was using – don’t call up the toobar. They don’t do anything. Wish they did, but oh well.
@NixonRedgrave I tried one more flight today in So Cal, along the coast flying from San Diego to Burbank in the TBM. Landed, started taxiing, then got an Application Error popup and program terminated.
So, I’m out.
Lol what is this. They’re just adding insult to injury now. I paid 140eur too. Still glad I applied for a refund, hope it comes through.
Sorry, I mixed up the simulators in my previous message.
Well I exceeded the two hour playtime rule from Steam, so refund request denied. Well done Microsoft. It took multiple hours just to get to the main menu after install, so you automatically invalidated Steam return policies by how completely broken the game was (is).
“Too broken to refund” should apparently be a new option for these types of games.
Submit a ticket so an actual human reviews your refund request. I’ve seen quite a few refunds granted for folks who are way over the limit.
There does not appear to be a way to submit a ticket for the game. It gives me two options. Contact support, or request a refund. Already tried and failed the refund route. Trying the “contact support” option takes me to a page saying sorry, we don’t offer support on other companies titles, and it gives me a link to Zendesk ![]()
Account Details > Purchase History > Select FS24 > I have a question about this purchase
These sorts of tickets are reviewed by actual people, not an automated system.
Thanks for the hint, I found that path. They certainly don’t make it easy to go that route. I’m sure that’s on purpose…
I would like to add on the overwhelmed by bugs. Helicopter throttle and collective now are
Not differentiated. Whatever hot fix was placed wrecked this terribly.
It took me 4 days to get in thanks to the incompatible marketplace addons they ported over.
Is very obvious that this program needs 400 people working on it full time for 6 months just to fix bugs to make it work like it should. No time for even more new broken features.
I almost refunded it already, but there is a dev livestream this Wednesday so I’m going to watch this one carefully. If they actually understand the situation and commit to a sensible plan of action, like 2 weekly or even monthly bug fix only releases for at least the next 4 months, then I’ll wait it out.
If on the other hand that start saying again how proud they are of this disaster, instead of how sorry they are for what they’ve delivered, then I’ll probably vomit on my keyboard and be next out of the door.
I wasn’t there at the start of 2020, I’ve been with this sim for 3 years, but this is a totally new low point of the kind I’ve not experienced here before.
I can confirm that Steam employee/contractor Enzo reviewed my new ticket and issued a refund as a customer courtesy, so cheers to Enzo and thanks again for the help.
I’m now free to watch the bugs pile up from a safe distance.
I can’t believe I had to request a refund for this program. I never would have thought that possible.
Good luck everyone.
I have VR - Camera Reset, VR - Acticate/Deactive VR Mode, and VR - Toolbar Toggle bound to my joystick and working. But I’ve found the Toolbar (and panels in general) often go invisible if I switch into VR after loading a flight, so I’ve taken to only switching to VR before loading a flight and never switching out until done.
That gives me an ulcer
, but also explains what I have been seeing. so thx for that.
I filed a few bugs here and there. The worst one was the 407 torque being tied to cyclic for some weird reason. Never fixed. Even had an SME comment on the bug.
I tried to pull up the 407 in 2024 to see if it was fixed … and I can’t get the 407 to start. ![]()
I have only been flying the same 5 aircraft in 2024. H101, L39, Cub, etc. Can confirm aircraft not created for the new sim have bugs. No complex heavies. I’ve avoided most major cities. Tokyo was fine.
Fly simple aircraft and avoid major cities … feels like zombie apocalypse advice. ![]()
About bugs reappearing in 2024, it actually wouldn’t shock me if MSFS2024 branched off of 2020 a year or two before announcement. Fixes just not backported (forewardported?
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unfortunatly you are not alone my friend i am feeling the exact same as you.
there are too manny issues with this sim.
to name abasic list of things that i have encounterd in the last few days besides being a member of the 97% club
-in career mode the sim lets me start on helipads with GA aircraft for no reason…
-cant cold and dark start B737 Max BBJ in Career mode
-Pusbck only pushed back 5m ion carreer mode
-in freeflight atc randomly dies
-Some airports that were suposed to be in Premiumdeluxe are showing as Autogenrated airports
-there are photos of planes on taxiways and runways at some airports i have visted like EHAM
-i have spotted Floating or flying jetways at manny airports like faro at southern portugal
-Real life air trafic is not working
-Player name plates are not showing
-the sim freezes up aftet trying to stop a freeflight with the following aircraft
-a330
-b747 all variants
-Beluga
(this is what i have tried and experienced)
- When using the MCDU in the A330 i found out that we cannot enter sids and stars so fligtplans are impossible
- in the boeing 737 the fmc does not care about what is in the FMC it follows its own path somethimes even entering a too steep bank that causes the plane to crash
- the boeing 737 max overspeeds
- boeing 737 max ggoit stuck manny times when climbing at FL300 while i had set altitude ofr 360
- got 2 instances in careed mode that i was spawned in a building and that caused the sim to think i colided and failed the misison, reputation went from A (almost S) to D… i stopped playing Carreer mode since then.
- Pilatu PC24… ust does nto work, sunshades are stuck.
- pilatus pc24 thrtoole and all other movable parts stuck (including Landing Gear)
- In career mode i found out that there are a few missions wirth the Cesna 208B Grand Caravan wich makes you fly 4 hours to deliver cargo… but you have way too little fuel in the plane to make it to your destination…
-somtimes certain airports in free flight are not spawnavble and sometimes they are. Makes Literaly no sense
And these are just the few thing that come to my mind now, i have spotted so manny bugs and issues that i have decided to go back to MSFS2020 for the tiome being becasue that actualy works and is less frustrating.
i have no clue how this has been released like this. it realy does not live up to the hype.
the only real imporvements i have seen to this new sim is the weather and lighting and wind effects.
besides that there is nothing ground breaking.
it could just as well been an upgrade fior MSFS2020 sold as a DLC to make the lifespand of the sim longer, They realy did not need to bring this out in iuts current state.
even having said this i still dont mind having bought it, but it should have worked just fine out of the box… they had 4 years to improve uppon 2020 and i just cant understand how they have did exactly the opsite,
just a small example but they said that choosinfg a plane would be easier in the new sim…
they made it worse.
in 2020 we could choose as an example from the follwing
-jet
-rotorcraft
-turboprop
-airlines
and ect
in 2024 it has become worse now we have
-plane
-helicopter
-lighter than air
-other
how is this better and more straight forward???
its literlay a step back
and im not even going to talk about the way we have to setup a flight in the world map it has vecome worse and more complicated.
like manny here i think that if Asobo would have said to us the following -
Sorry the sim is not finished! but we haev a product in our hands that is a Beta version wich we like to release to the people that have preorderd since they were expecting a product, and release this as a closed beta so that we can reoprt issues and Asobo can trouble shoot and fix some major isues before official release somewhere in teh near future. i would have respected them more for being honest and supported them fully
i know i said a lot but this is literlaay how i feel now and had to get this out somewhere
That is really funny! Thank you for this. I needed it.
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