A number of people thought visuals were an issue on the Electra.
I don’t think they were as bad as some claimed, but they also certainly weren’t top-of-class.
Aren’t they over on SOH moaning about other devs cutting prices, though?
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A fair point I was forgetting, but that doesn’t necessarily mean AH’s thought process will be any better this time around. In other words, are they going to patch bugs and improve and support the product, or are they going to leave it as-is (like the poor Electra), ignore customer complaints, or worse be actively hostile toward anyone that presents a critical point of view as they have done previously?
Unfortunately, I will have to steer clear of this until reviews come in and patches.
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I’ve been in contact with the devs offering to test and provided feedback on the aircraft as a real world rated DC3 pilot (see my avatar photo)- but was turned down.
“I think you would be (as a pilot ) more into the systems depth side of things. We are far more about the overall experience side of things. Which is why MSFS for us is a perfect fit.”
Take from reply from Aeroplane Heaven what you will.
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Thx for saving me money.
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I have been a long time fan of AH (but have yet to buy any of their MSFS products). As such, and also as a past developer, I would never have refused input from someone rated on the aircraft type. Their answer is simply short-sighted, and disappointing. I hope they do a good job with the DC-3. If they don’t, perhaps they will yet need your input.
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A disheartening outlook.
After the terrible F3F with a mediocre cockpit and dreadful engine sounds came a good P-51 with lacking sounds.
Now, having experienced the DC-6 and the recent released Boeing 247 (so entertaining), I’d hope for a stellar DC-3.
Still wishing for the best outcome and waiting for some in-depth reviews - not going to purchase anything from AH without long and detailed reviews…
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That’s … disappointing. But not surprising.
So they don’t seem to consider MSFS to be a platform with potential for realistic system depth.
From much of their previous statements I got the impression they are the ones not capable of implementing that system depth since they always find excuses snd blame shortcomings of their models on Asobo and the SDK.
At the same time other devs, like JustFlight, Flysimware, PMDG or Wing42, obviously ARE able to release aircraft with much more realistic flight models and system depth.
From that latest statement I can only take away that they have decided to continue their recent philosophy of making pretty, but bland and expensive planes. Pity …
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It goes hand in what with other statements from the likes of Aerosoft and Captain Sim (shudder) have both admitted recently. As difficult as the SDK has been made for developers, I know there at some good developers out who make up the other end of this spectrum who’ve been working tirelessly on thier own projects for over a year. All I can say without breaking several NDA’s is watch this space, MSFS will shortly have some very detailed complex addons worthy of the serious simmers wallet!
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Couldn’t agree more!
Glad I didn’t wait for the DC-3 and got myself the Boeing 247D instead. It’s a bit smaller and far less iconic but I really love the level of detail and it’s a steal for 17,- EUR
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This.
Actually never cared for the Boeing. In my view, it was more a link between post WWI and all the stuff developed around WWII. At least land-based.
The Sikorsky flying boats and the Boeing Clippers were the true trailblazers in my opinion. Anyway…
The Wing42 release continues to blow my mind in a positive and fun way!
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Not every aircraft needs to be “study level,” but using that as an excuse to dismiss any input from a real-world rated pilot in the type speaks volumes. Confirms in my eyes what many of us have suspected: AH are unable or unwilling to adapt to meet the changing standards of what’s expected from commercial add-ons now.
Brings me no pleasure to say it because I enjoyed their releases in the FS9/FSX days and I even defended them from some of the criticism after the Electra release that didn’t have to do with the aircraft itself.
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This right here tells me everything I need to know, and now I won’t be buying the Aeroplane Heaven DC-3 (and I had high hopes for it).
It appears AH wants to create a pretend aircraft simulation, not a realistic one. And won’t it be funny when they come out pontificating performance and systems functions that we know are pulled out of thin air…lol
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Alright, that one is looking like a pass already… A shame, I really want a in-depth DC-3 in MSFS. I guess I’ll have to consider continuing using XPlane after all
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Absolutely unreal. I can’t imagine there are many DC-3 pilots around that also happen to use MSFS AND have the time and patience to offer their experience for testing a flight sim addon.
You offered them the possibility to really finesse their product and they shied away from it. Not only does this give me doubts about their DC-3 but also their willingness to put the effort in as a company. If they were worried you’d tear it to shreds they could have just done an NDA just in case your feedback was not something they could enact.
Time will tell if I am completely wrong but I won’t be holding my breath. Thanks for trying! Any testing you’ve done for other devs has surely left a mark, whether we realise it or not.
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I should have mentioned that I only discovered this product announcement back in March, so it was pretty late in the piece by the time we had this conversation and my understanding at the time was that the product is essentially complete, so further feedback wasn’t required.
Time will tell I suppose, I look forward to seeing what the usual bunch of youtube reviewers pick up and whether it will be worth purchasing knowing it is more geared towards entertainment than realism.
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My two cents: AH has always tilted strongly toward flightsimming as a form of entertainment. So I’m all in for their DC 3. And besides, despite the perceived shortcomings of some of their work, at least they understand the importance of including a virtual cockpit…but that’s a different thread.
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Let’s not give developers credit for literally doing the bare minimum just because there’s one (at least so far just one) who doesn’t.
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Well, I must admit that comment has me cringing a tad, but I am reserving judgement until after it is actually released. Written words especially can be misunderstood and/or misleading.
Truth be told, I don’t really feel that many of the stock Asobo aircraft are any more or less fun to fly than the so-called “study-level” aircraft out there. If this DC-3 falls somewhere within that spectrum, then for me it could be a keeper. 
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more geared towards entertainment than realism
It’s a flight simulator. To me, realism is the entertainment.
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Agreed.
The flight model is part of the “experience.” Why wouldn’t Aeroplane Heaven want a certified DC-3 pilot to help them with the flight model? Because they want to make one up out of thin air, that’s why.
The Aeroplane Heaven DC-3 is starting to sound like a joke. When they come out talking about its authenticity, the community can give them a big unified horse laugh knowing AH didn’t want a real DC-3 pilot coming near it…lol
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