Air Manager CJ4 Working Title Panels

If you could point me to the resources I need to learn to do this effectively, I’d much appreciate it…

Do you mean to implement night lighting?

Yes. That would be very helpful.

Ah, there isn’t really anything to refer to for this. I’m the only one that is doing it dynamically like I show in the video AFAIK. There are other instruments that have 2 sets of graphics and switch between them for a day and night display but progressive dimming like I have I think is unique. A little involved if you are just starting to make instruments.

OK, So it’s just 2 sets of gaphics. I don’t think MSFS has the capability to switch dynamically. At least no way I know of. I was actually just consdering making 2 sets of graphics and having a global switch that sets a variable in some way or another so that when I hit that button, it switches to the alternate graphics for my entire panel. I know there’s a global var of some kind you can set in AM. I remember seeing a video about it some time ago, and that’s what gave me the idea. I just haven’t tried it yet.

I’ve done a little more work on lighting with MSFS and it’s a pain. I am however making progress. It seems the AM API needs a slight tweak for fs2020 event handling though to make variable lighting really play nice with the sim. I’ll put something together and contact SI about it.


Thanks for sharing are these available (panels and fmc) available in air manager or do we download them form your drive? @FLRob27

You can actually get them now from our Github.

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To all you guys using our CJ4 instruments, you’re going to be in for quite a treat in the coming weeks… We have some interesting surprises coming… Just saying…

Stay tuned for more info.

To those using my other instruments, we won’t forget you either…


I have a pretty good idea what you might be up to. And it’s going to be very nice. I’ll DM you with my guess so as to not let the secret out and spoil the surprise.

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Definitely get them from the Simstrumentation GitHub. Both mine and Rob’s Google drive repositories will be going away shortly as we get our newly updated instruments published on GitHub. They’re no longer being updated as of now. Everything there works, but it’s not the latest versions for several instruments.

Thank you guys so much for your time and effort on these panels, I purchased Air Manager because of your post and got everything working great. I do have a new problem that I never had before and was wondering if anyone has experienced similar issues, my flights are crashing within the last 5 minutes before landing, doesn’t matter if it’s a 30 min, 2 hour, or 10 hour flight, it almost always crashes on final approach and this never happened before using Air Manager. I ran a few flights without Air Manager and no crashes so far. Wondering if you guys have seen this before or if it’s just the nature of 3rd party applications in the sim. Thanks!

Keep an eye out, in the next few day’s there’s going to be a major update to the GitHub for all the CJ4 Panels.
That’s a interesting correlation. My sim crashes about once a day, it’s always when I’m running Air Manager (AM), as that’s all I’ve been doing lately so I can’t comment on if AM is actually the cause. But I’m curious if you’ve uncovered something. What version of AM are you running? Does the sim crash right to desktop (CTD). Does AM stay running? My sim CTD with only the warning that the audio stops right before the CTD, my AM stays running. Most of the time I’m just sitting on the tarmac without the engines even running programming AM, so i don’t think landing is necessarily a key.

Thanks for the follow up, yes I’m on AM version 4.0.2 which I believe is the latest. I get an instant CTD with no warning whatsoever, no audio loss, frame drop, lag, etc, and it happens exclusively during the last 5 mins which is most bizarre, sometimes when I bank on to the final ILS path and sometimes just feet away from touching the runway (the MOST frustrating hah). Air Manager keeps running fine after the sim closes. It’s never happened at any other stage of flight for me and only started around the time I installed AM and SU5 so not ruling that update out either. About 75% of the flights I ran with AM ended with a CTD, so several were still successful all the way to the end. I’m going to keep running flights without AM to test, I’m hoping for a CTD so I can rule out AM being the cause. I do have some 3rd party liveries for CJ4 which I heard elsewhere on the forum can cause CTD on approach, so I’ll remove those to rule out as well.

I also experience crashes when I coming in on arrival. Not every time. And seems to happen whether or not AM is running, and seems to always happen when coming in from a higher altitude. I can’t think of a case offhand where I’ve seen this when flying low level VFR.

There’s nothing AM or our instruments do to interact with the sim that would cause this. It just reads sim variables and either fires H events or L or K vars. And those require direct user input to activate. MSFS crashes for me when I’m not touching anything AM-related. The only consistency is that the crashing happens when you’re coming in on your arrival.

Personally, I think this may be something to do with world data loading as you’re descending from flight levels. This seems to be the only time it ever happens for me. I could be wrong, but that’s what my observations seem to suggest.

And as @FLRob27 said, keep an eye out for an announcement in the next day or two. I was just delivered what is supposed to be the “final” version of our Version 2 of the CJ4 panels overnight. I’ll be doing final testing and then uploading to GitHub. It’s indeed a VERY major update, and includes a really cool surprise feature that’s never quite been implemented like this in AM before.

Excited for the update!! And good news: I’m having NO crashing now, I think it must have been my 3rd party livery I removed. Every flight I’ve ran over the past week with AM has been successful so very happy about that!

Yeah, just knowing how AM interacts with the sim and what it does on the back end, it’s hard to imagine it would be the cause for a crash. Especially in that kind of situation.

Version 2.0 of the CJ4 instruments have been uploaded. See this new thread…

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How do you get it ¡¡¡

I use Air manager.
I’m going to explain what happens to me, there is something I do wrong
I create a panel where I place the CJ4 overlay and then, the only thing I can think of that I have to do is place the pop out on the overlay, but this looks like the typical windows screen with its upper white border, which when I press the instrument disappears and it does not work at all nor does it look like what you have

Can you tell me the way to do it?

@WishingBowl69 join our discord server and we’ll be able to help you out faster and see new releases right away. Simstrumentation
But what you need to do is go to Air Manager and go to your panel and scroll down (which a lot of people don’t even realize you can scroll down) and you’ll see a bunch of options and a checkbox for “Click-through”. Make sure you aren’t showing your panel or the click-through option will be greyed out, aka “hide” it as AirManager calls it.
Make sure you also select “Mouse & Touch”.