Airbus A320 No aileron control before touchdown

This issue has been adressed ALOT. Since Alpha allready i believe. And it’s still there.
Right before touchdown after the 20ft call aileron inputs become useless untill you’re on the runway.

Why is this still present? And also why i can’t remember any dev said anything about this in the q&a sessions? (maybe there was and i forgot)

But really… I can live with the autopilot being buggy and not always working as expected. I can also live with the more complex systems not working as irl.

But aren’t these the bare basics of the bloody aircraft? How can you release an aircraft where everytime you did a flight and come to the landing part the plane just becomes uncontrollable? It’s like playing mario, but everytime you reach the Boss mario becomes completely Numb.

I understand that this is just one big epic journey and we paid 120 euros to be a part of this never ending story. But please… Get your act togheter. Fix these bare basics nonsense. And be transparent with your customers. I tried being polite and sensible. But i really don’t want to anymore.

After the last Q&A i really felt positive and thought, yes these are great people making a great game. But everytime i try to go away from the GA planes i get smashed in the face again.

Sim is great, Ariliners are complete ■■■■.

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My ailerons still work on my landings when I need them. I’m not sure why it’s not working for you. But I rarely use my ailerons since I keep my aircraft stable all the way before touchdown. So I can’t really confirm that it doesn’t work for me. But when I need them to for recovery purposes, they work.

Well… Try to add some crosswind then. Make sure you need those ailerons. Everything is fine before 20 ft above the runway. Aircraft suddently go’s to the right. And all aileron inputs are gone untill your like 5 ft above and the controls become very sensitive all of the sudden until touchdown. It’s almost impossible to make a smooth touchdown on centerline like this.

Elevator also go’s like crazy. In flight you need alot of input to even make the surfaces even do something. But somehow in the last 5 ft before touchdown the smalles correction make the plane bounce up and down like crazy.

It’s been like this forever. And sometimes it’s better and sometimes it’s worse.

But overal it’s ■■■■. (Same for 747 and the totaly vague 787 controls btw, but at least the controls stay somewhat consisten trough the stages of flight)

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Just landed manually at LOWI, no problems at all with ailerons, worked as expected… even greased the landing… Check the sensitivity etc of your controls, dead zones???

I have the same problem with uncontrollable a320 upon disconnecting AP during approach/landing. No ailerons movement. The thing is, I remember that this problem existed even on P3d/FSX with payware aircraft like the aerosoft a320. Unfortunately, my guess is that there’s nobody capable of making a flyable Airbus in the FS world.

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I appreciate the help but checking my sensitivities or deadzones is ofcourse not helping. The plane flies normally until 20ft above the runway. All other planes don’t have this issue.

I will try to make a video today if i have time.

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Just performed a super low pass (5-15ft) over a runway, rocking the wings during the whole pass with full aileron deflection…no abnormal behavior…

Edit: at ~Vapp, conf full & gear down.

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I believe this is an issue where the aircraft thinks you are stalling. If you have low airspeed the stall speed is alot higher than it should and as a result your aircraft tries to fall out the sky. Your best bet is to try not to land at low airspeeds. Try to utilize ILS whenever possible. That would manage your speed so you aren’t falling out of the air.

So, here’s a video. Did my best to show as good as i can. Don’t mind the sketchy approach. Was a very tight manual flown circuit just for the sake of the video. speed was 135kts on final. You can see the stick is only doing very little input to control the plane. Right after the 40 call the plane steers to the left. As you can see, i have to give Full right aileron to compensate. Plane reacts very slugish. It’s only for a brief moment because just before (my very hard) touchdown the controls are normal again. So it’s really hard at this moment to have a feel for the controls to make a smooth touchdown.

crosswind was at 30kts btw :stuck_out_tongue:

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No, there’s no indication whatsoever that the aircraft is near stall speed.

Watch my video above and maybe it gives a clearer view of my problem.

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I’ve watched your video, but I’ve never experienced this problem.

I’d check and confirm that the flight model is set to ‘modern’ in the options.

Lol thanks but it’s not that. fortunately i found out about that nonsense loong time ago already.

And like i said many times. Plane (all planes) are flying fine. It’s only that moment between 40ft above and touchdown.

Always at exactly 40ft?

Since there’s a considerable xwnd, could it have been a gust?

well, i did some landings with less crosswind. And altough it still happends, it’s less noticable.

i think so. not 100% sure though. It’s not a gust i believe. because it happends always. Unless there’s some strange things going on with the wind @ 40ft at every airport everywhere in the world haha

The real A320 can react as slow to corrections as your A320.

it’s the wing dip bug, don’t listen to people that are telling you that you are flying it incorrectly. It’s a known issue that can be remedied currently by hitting the SEC1 swtich (at least on the flybywire version) on short final. Sucks because you lose autotrim and the airplane can be a handful.

I know it’s annoying when people are telling you that you are stalling etc. I just LOL and move on.

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That’s the famous wing dip bug.
The workaround is to press the SEC1 switch as Jeff told you in the FBW mod that works ok.
Another possible remedy is to turn off all AI traffic, I have all traffic off because I fly on Vatsim and I rarely experience the bug.

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FYI, I (and many others) have never experienced this wing dip bug.