Guys please don’t make this a discussion about if it’s real or not or if it’s our own fault or whatever. That’s useless.
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It’s just getting old hearing that everyone that has the bug is wrong and the premium flightsim pilots are the best and it has to be on our end. Every video I have made on the A320 be it default or flybywire has this exact bug, I am done talking about it. If you don’t have the problem why are you muddying the waters of this topic?
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Where did I write that it’s your fault and/or that you are wrong?
Muddying waters? Seriously? Just because I can’t replicate this problem?
Too bad that I wasted my time trying to help you guys troubleshoot this problem, I’m out.
by arguing the gust and that it is how the A320 flies in weather. I just called you out on it because it is getting tiresome when we are all trying to have a conversation about the real issue at hand so asobo may fix it some day. You said yourself that you fly with wind layers deleted, it was a moot point by then. If you can’t understand the issue we are all having with the wing dip, I can’t explain it to you more than try and fly with real weather instead of scenarios.
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Please stop this
Yup. It´s terribly irritating. There are vids of real busdrivers on YT who also complain about that. Aeronews Germany, for example. Dude almost went crazy after his like 20th Paro attempt. Happened to me today (once again). It´s CLEARLY a bug. How can total loss of ailerons not be?
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Yep. It’s a bug that’s clear now.
Wonder wich ‘real pilot’ was working together with asobo to make this masterpiece of an airliner.
I’m not willing to be a complete ■■■■■■■ here. But i really think it’s complete ■■■■■■■■ that these kind of major faults are still present in the sim so many month’s after release. Especially because these problems were here since the beginning of alpha…
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i have no clue, but i agree that this is a no go. Also i don´t think that it is something so complicated it would take them two months to fix. Then again, not a programmer…
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Here’s another video. This time without sidestick because i wasn’t planning on recording this so didn’t change my view. I took the whole approach this time to show that every movement is precise and normal until the 40ft callout.
Still you can clearly see at 40ft above again, that the aircraft banks to the left and i can’t correct it untill 30ft. It’s only a small window in where it happends, and in calm winds this doesn’t have to be a big problem (like this video shows) and also it’s harder for people to notice. But it’s definately anoying and wrong. And like the earlier video showed, with heavy crosswinds it’s really horrible.
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I´ve had this same problem since the beginning.
If I fly the aircraft by the numbers, and perform the landing at the correct theoretical speed, my ailerons loose autority and I can´t control the aircraft.
I have “solved” this by flying a bit faster tan normal, maybe 155 kts at touchdown. Yes, a little too fast, but at that speed I have complete control of the landing (and it makes landing at short runways with steep clifs at the end, much more “interesting”).
Until they solve this bug, I fly this way. Not too terrible for me.
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My throttle keeps switching back to flex and climb on during climb. I think my joystick throttle sensitivity is off. What’s the best number to set it at?
Yea, the wing dip bug, this is pretty much the only bug left that is keeping me from flying Airliners in this sim. It’s beyond frustrating but I’ve gone back to P3D and XP11 for Airliners for now until this bug gets addressed properly.
edit: I seem to recall a similar thing happening with the JAR Design A320 for XP10 back around 2016. Becoming very unstable on final appr, right before flare.
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I’ll give it a try with heavy crosswind today, and I’ll report it here with my findings. Maybe I could record some videos to share too with slightly zoomed out to show the sidestick.
Do you think a 25 knots crosswind with 50% gust at 90 degree relative to the runway course heading is sufficient for me to replicate the issue?
This is 100% a bug and its incredibly frustrating.
I understand the need for debate but man, some people in this thread really are just trying to shut down the possibility of this being a bug.
I’ve seen this as an incredibly widespread issue, and I’m finding it hard to believe some people are saying they don’t experience this. I mean if you’re not experiencing this… good on you. Don’t dismiss this as an issue.
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I think we’re just trying to determine if this “really is” an issue or if it’s a pilot error or differences in settings configuration. It is only an issue if it can be replicated across multiple different people constantly. (Things like AP swaying bug on cruising. That’s an actual issue because that can be replicated by everyone at a certain conditions).
We don’t want to report an issue to the developers telling them it doesn’t work for us, and they’re not going to think it’s an issue if we can’t show them how to replicate the issue and have them being able to replicate it as well. Even then, they could come back saying “well it’s an issue because you’re doing this and that, instead of this and that.”. So we just need to make sure that it’s actually an issue that everyone experience constantly.
There’s a lot of things and factors involved here. And you can’t have a “Oh I think this doesn’t work, so it must be a bug” mentality.
It’s at a stage right now where its not “oh it doesn’t work so it must be a bug” mentality.
It’s been reported widely. From my perception there’s a minority of people not experiencing this.
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There is an interesting mix of ideas here. A pilot with 17,000 hrs who knows the real A320 is difficult landing in a crosswind, a reproducible known bug and possibly the autoland interfering near touchdown.
Being fly by wire, CAT 3 capable there is a lot happening in the software behind the scenes. As a retired software engineer I’m not surprised by a fuzzy patch around 30ft-40ft.
I’m no expert, but reading around the technical documents I found that “Below 50ft radio altitude Airbus flight controls go to Flare mode”. Also one of the features of Alpha Floor is to maintain wings level and obviously CAT 3 landings will maintain wings level.
So we might be seeing a combination of the Airbus fly by wire behaviour and glitches in the software. At some point the developer would be thinking “are we in Flare Mode? Yes, ok lets do something different”. It seems more than coincidence this strange effect/bug kicks in 10ft below the start of Flare Mode, and could be influenced by speed.
So my view is it is 50/50 Airbus behaviour and a software problem, i.e. nobody is wrong!
There’s not a mix of ideas. It’s a bug. it’s there since the beginning of alpha. It has nothing to do with opinions or what a “real airbus pilot” thinks.
A pilot with 17000hrs who knows the real airbus isn’t gonna say: ''Yeah that’s just because the a320 is difficult landing in crosswinds" When watching my video. Every pilot who says that a total loss of aileron control in the final part before touchdown is just because it’s difficult to fly in crosswinds is just a bullsh*t pilot that never should be near the controls of any aircraft.
I agree with the people above saying it’s mental that we actually still have to explain this is a bug after it’s allready widely replicated for month’s allready by many people.
The only reason i post about this problem again, is because it’s absolutely outrageous that asobo has let us paid for this game in wich some aircraft work absolutely fine. But others are still completely broken like this a320. These are basic fundementals of the simulator and should be fixed allready before even release the game. I don’t care how complex it is. Asobo knew what they were working with. They knew it was going to be complex. So it’s not an excuse.
Every flight that i had, if you try to do any corrections trying to catch center line right before landing, it’s gonna dip one wing agressively, it’s terrible, it’s been a bug since launch and still they’re not capable of fixing it. Also, people who claim that there’s nothing wrong are making this even more difficult.
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Yes there is a bug, but its a bug in the emulation of the Airbus fly by wire logic, which often restricts a pilot. The Paris Air Show crash is the worst example.
My money is on a software bug in Flare Mode and the Alpha Floor code, which sort of explains why others get around the bug(s) with higher landing speeds.
Some people have also reported loss of elevator control on landing jets.
It makes you wonder if ASOBO created a simple game like landing system, and we are now seeing the collateral damage.
I’m not a pilot, but I do know the heavy jets have strict limits on crosswinds and tailwinds. I will always have respect for an experienced military and commercial jet pilot.