Allow to refund the game on PC after update 5 graphical downgrade

Agreed 100%, 1st trailer… Xbox : Captured in real-time 4k, it was clear from the beginning…

All the games you mention are confined to a set that has been tuned and retuned MSFS has an imperfect stage that is Bing World, check out the discovery flights to understand the difference

thats funny, i play on a pc below 1000 and it runs better than ever and still looks good enough.

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Yes, let capabilities decide for the defaults. But as a user. I’d like to be able to change things, and choose a lower framerate - go up quality, 10FpS or less in the mountains or over cities, or I want… landing practice, I put Low quality to have >30FpS.

The other end, an Ultra++ mode, that should also work for slow PC’s, or on XBox-S. When I’m making a screen shot, or when I’m touristing at low altitude, I want to see all there is as realistic as the sim can do. Get 10FpS, I don’t mind.

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You’re free to change the options. Ultra settings for high and PC’s are there. Go into options and there will be various things you can change. With mouse and left click you can change those to get better graphics.

Completely agree. I also spent a few thousand dollars on a brand new gaming machine that doesn’t have any other software other than MS Flight Simulator 2020. There’s no conflict with any other software other than potentially bloatware that Microsoft would introduce every once in awhile.

Microsoft / Asobo really did all of us a huge dis-service but constantly messing this up. Significantly WAY OVER PROMISED EVERY TIME and under deliver.

SU5 was horrible because most of us spent about 70GB of bandwidth and time to download only to experience tremendous problems. This is simply inexplicable and inexcusable.

Most planes do not work properly. In many cases, the flagship TBM 930 cannot even be started!!! I still haven’t completed a full flight without CTD.

What a mess!!

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That’s because your low/mid range pc can’t produce the visuals mine does and therefore you haven’t seen what I have.

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Yet there are several folk with huge systems raving about the visuals

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It is going to end up being exactly that way though. Asobo have said numerous times there are higher graphics and LOD settings coming to the sim for those with high end PC’s. It wouldn’t surprise me if we get them in the next week or so since it would clearly be a solution to a lot of problems and stop people complaining.

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Yea I bet this will be the case. Realists though know that there will be no changes come until at least the next world update, maybe next sim update, perhaps 2022-2023 timeframe.

You’ll just get the same tired tropes in response:

  • “This is a pizza restaurant, not a cheese restaurant” -Person who forgot cheese is a core component of pizza (This is Flight Simulator, not “X” Simulator)
  • “I don’t know what you’re complaining about, this pizza just got so much better!” -Person who is lactose intolerant/vegetarian (Flight Simulator changes cater only to or don’t negatively impact their own use case, not most others’)
  • “It’s still so much better than anything we had before” -Person who’s been eating $3 frozen disc pizzas for the past decade and isn’t used to dining out. (Comparing Flight Simulator to its 15 year old predecessor instead of other modern video games, or previous iterations of the current Flight Simulator)
  • “Just be patient. They’ll put the cheese back on the pizza” -Person who ordered an hour and a half ago, and is now going to wait another hour and a half to see if something happens (People waiting years for promised features)
  • “Make sure you write a complaint and put it in the restaurant’s feedback box” -Person easily placated (Fill out those ZenDesk tickets)
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Going forward, think how nervous folks all be when it says “Updating…” :smiley: :rofl: :+1:

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So when all the dust has settled and we find that we actually have twice the sim as before the update will you believe it fair when Asobo asks for more money?

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Actually, I wouldn’t have bought the first painting! :stuck_out_tongue:

the developers promised a game, they delivered a game. No one promised there won’t be bugs (there are no games without bugs, especially such complex ones. Looks at DCS, released 12 or 13 years ago and still it’s a bugfest).
Bugs will be sorted out. While now the biggest issue was sorted out i’m sure developers will focus on other issues.
I remember this was quite mature forum and now it became another reddit filled with children who want everything to be perfect right here right now. It won’t be, MSFS will have bugs 5 years later, it will change and be different when it was on release. So if someone doesn’t like it they’re free to leave. I don’t understand the issue here. Don’t like the product don’t use it. Why torture yourself? If you’re in refund window you’re free to refund it. If you’ve got hundreds hours of playtime you’ve already missed refund window because you’ve got what you’ve paid for. Otherwise you wouldn’t have been playing it.

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LOL! Great post.

Bugs are things like if you do a and b then c happens.

Yes theyve delivered a fantastic achievement on consoles that cost less than GPUs but despite reviews claiming massive perf increases on PC and grinning youtube videos I still cant even get 4K/60 ultra on a top GPU and see buildings in the foreground randomly changing - easy to see on YT videos so they must have known. I dont want RAM usage reducing - I bought 32GB for a reason.

Requesting a refund will not solve the problems. Please remember that the software remains the property of the developer. You only buy a license to use this software. From a legal point of view, this fact is very complicated. If you cannot prove that the conditions for the use of the license have been violated, you cannot request a refund

Thanks for the comment. LoudChipmunk167!

These comments surprise me. One update does not go well and its REFUND! There will always be a chance of major bugs or other issues introduced in an update to a complex sim. Just calm down and be patient while Asobo sort it out.

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