Anyone else still only 2020

MSFS2020 users do you feel a bit overlooked now that 24 seems to be so popular?
At this moment I’m quite happy not getting any of the versions of the new boy and reading between the lines it seems quite a few who have taken the leap of faith over to the new sim aren’t as happy as they should be. Let’s keep 2020 posts and updates going there must be more people than me who haven’t “upgraded”

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Haven’t bought. Won’t buy until the majority of reports of VR usage on 2024 are better than not. As a VR only user, I see no reason to frustrate myself using a sim that has so many reported issues with VR. Right now, I’m experiencing the best performance and experience form 2020 in VR than I ever have. Looks like SU2 has several VR fixes in it. I’ll wait until SU2 + a few months to even consider moving to 2024. If I were to bet, I’d bet that it will be even longer past SU2 until people start reporting a better VR experience than they are having in 2020. :frowning: It’s too bad, really. I was excited about the new version. But I’m just tired of playing the early adopter role, so I waited. And I’m glad I did.

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Yes, me - for instance. Although before the launch I almost couldn’t wait any longer and I was very keen to make the switch. But then I saw all the live streamers sitting there and waiting for something to happen and thought OK, not today.
And when the waves started to crest high the following days I thought a bit more waiting would be sensible. And it still is. I’ll cite my reasons from another post I made:

I am mostly flying in Germany and the aggressive placing of autogen trees has ruined many a small grass airfield. Trees all over even on runways.
Many villages you can’t recognise from afar because they look like forests with the odd house here and there. Roads and railway lines are buried in trees and many highway (autobahn) intersections are hardly recognisable any more because - you guessed it - they are hidden in trees. The VFR capabilities that once were there are significantly reduced now.
On FS 2020 that was so much better before the last world update (Germany/Austria/Switzerland).
There’s only two planes I’m interested in: the Beech V35B and the A2A Comanche.
The Comanche is working somehow but not completely flawlessly.
I expected the Bonanza as an Asobo/Microsoft plane taken over from Carenado will work for sure and I might be lucky and could adopt 24 on day 1. How wrong.

So I can’t fly the planes I want to and I can’t land on many airfields I want to land on which pretty much means FS2024 is not yet for me.

Regards, Frank (still hoping FS2024 will be ready soon)

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I don’t feel overlooked. I understand FS24 is the new shiny toy, and ultimately it is the future. It still strikes me though. I was skeptical from the very beginning of Asobo’s claims that there were enough new things to warrant a new, standalone version, while also maintaining 99% compatibility. I always felt it would be one or the other - that if FS24 was so different to justify a new sim, then things likely would not port over seamlessly from FS2020.

I remember the defenders, with much zeal, who told us repeatedly in no uncertain terms that our concerns were unjustified, unfounded, and unnecessary. That Asobo had learned from the FS2020 release and that FS24 would be wonderful from the get go. But then there were the signs - little to no preview hype, events, media. The few events they did were telling. FS24 wasn’t ready. I’m sure Asobo knew it. I believe MS didn’t care. It had the year 2024 in the name so it had to ship in 2024. Ready or not. So it released in an alpha state.

I see SU1 as the beta version and, hopefully, SU2 as the first proper release candidate. That’s my target for actually considering buying it. For now I keep flying FS2020. I recently got the Campout Utility and a birds add-on and it’s been a breath of fresh air. I’m also a tad embarrassed to admit it took me 4 years to discover that the “snow” weather preset covers the ground in snow (I always fly in real-time weather). I still love FS2020.

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Also staying with 2020 for now. I tried 2024 and have had nothing but problems with it. Many hours wasted troubleshooting reinstalling etc. for now until it’s stable, has an active marketplace, and my favorite aircraft are compatible, I’m going to stick with 2020. 2024 will get there eventually, but I’m not wasting any more time on it.

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Staying with MSFS2020 until I get 737 for MSFS2024 from PMDG and all VR issues are fixed. I haven’t bought MS2024 yet.

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Rarely use it anymore. Waiting for Black Square aircraft to make their way into MSFS 2024 and really the only reason I’m still using MSFS 2020. Been having fun with the A2A Comanche and COWS DA40 and DA42 in MSFS 2024. I’ve found performance in MSFS 2024 to be better.

I am still with 2020 and will remain with it until they fix VR in 2024, sort out the ridiculous trees in 2024, fix the sea traffic visibility distance, LOD and pitiful weather depiction in 2024, make the ridiculous walk-around optional, make sure 2024 aircraft work…and generally make their photography, sightseeing, scenery roleplay game into a program worthy of the descriptions “flight” simulator.

Mercifully, I use SayIntentions.ai for ATC and Navigraph for charts, together with a GNX750 for navigation.

One day, 2024 will be good enough to use but not for many months or longer. Meanwhile, 2020 is working just fine in VR thank you.

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Never used 2020 since the release of 24.

I agree with this (and the rest of your post).

I haven’t bought '24 and am in no hurry to do so. I’ll add that it sounds rather “gamey” and I prefer “simy”.

Holding out for less bugs / more realism.

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Wait and see :sunglasses:

The “gamey” thing can be totally ignored - just like it could on all of the other iterations of the sim

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and that’s a good thing.

The “simy” thing is still there (so a win win for you?) and it appears to be a lot more stable than the career mode if that is what you are refering to as “gamey”.

I always thought the Bushtrips and Challenges etc were too gamey for me in 2020 so I simply never used them

Moving to 24 is a smart move if you’ve got a decent CPU and a lot of Vram, say 12gb or more. Otherwise stay with 20. Xbox users should stick to 20.

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It could be argued however, that the hours that went into creating those games could have been better spent on perfecting the basic sim. I know, games are necessary in terms of bringing in more people and revenue. Just expressing my own desires for the direction I’d like to see my hobby moving.
Bottom line is I’ll buy '24 when it gets better reviews from the VR community.

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Wait and see for me, probably not a good move as although my Asus laptop has plenty of oomph it ‘only’ has 6GB of VRAM. Also I fly just the A2a Comanche, so 2024 would give me better scenery (perhaps) but not much else. I’m not into the games thing, I just want to fly! (and land)

I have stuck with 2020, using BATC and Navigraph charts has the flight sim where I want it to be.

TBH the only thing that would make me upgrade to a new version is to natively have the same voice controlled ATC and proper traffic injection natively supported that I get from Beyond ATC and FSLTL

I uninstalled 2024 a week after release and never went back. 2020 as it is now is (finally) pretty much what I want a flight sim to be (with a lot of paid addons, to be fair)

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Having the option to choose boot disk, I dedicated an SSD to FS2024 purchased with Game Pass.
I’ve tried it a couple of times, sorry to say but it makes me rejection just trying to configure the Controls.
For now I use FS2020 to the max also because I have little faith in the fact that they will solve the problems related to FS2024 streaming.

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