I watched him as he landed. That was really bad. I didn’t get any stuttering, or slowdowns, on that flight, except for one place. Just after I landed at the final destination, and I was slowing down I had a couple of seconds where my frame rate probably halved. It stopped before I got to exit the runway though.
Sounds like x-plane before Vulkan. Now I wonder why I switched to Fs2020.
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Prompted by your comments I once again took off from KLAL, flew to South Lakeland and turned back towards KLAL to land.
As I got closer I noticed a very slight stutter a couple of times. For me it never really ‘stopped’ if you get my dfrift it was so slight I had not noticed it before. As this can happen accidentally I repeated the flight a couple of times and each time I felt there was a slight jarring once or twice.
I dont monitor FPS as that is a meaningless measure in this type of program. I only judge if a flight is smooth or not.
And yes, I noticed that slight stutter in a couple of places. Almost missed it as basically the flight was smooth.
So there is something there as no doubt there is in other places.
I dont think there is much purpose in commenting on technical programming aspects unless you are very familiar with the process.
rolling back MSFS isnt an option. A potential nightmare.
You arent dealing with a simple driver here. Just the thought would horrify me.
we have to stick it out or ditch it.
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Maybe, but it’s still on the devs to figure it out. I feel as I’m a good case study as my rig is only for flight sim, I do not install other game on it:
-new update announced!
-remove community mods
-run updater
-kmco goes from 40+fps prior to update, down to 20fps first flight, and lower the longer I fly. Usually at my arrival airport I’ll be in the 15fps range consistently thru touchdown
So Its pretty simple - game performs one way. Update installed, now performance changed.
My rig is solely for flight sim, it was a fresh install of win 10 at msfs release, I haven’t updated any nvidia drivers or installed new software in months. If it’s not broke don’t fix it . Only update was allowing win10 to do it’s thing. So if it’s an os update it’s on Asobo as well to address.
The update broke the game for some of us and we just are waiting for a fix. I’m convinced there is nothing I can do on my end at this point and just have to wait, as I will not start fiddling with drivers and tweaks unless Asobo states it as a solution
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out of interest what is your CPU GPU combination?
Pretty vanilla, i7 9700k and 2080 super. Was running mix of high and ultra settings.
I get better frame rates at the start of a flight but man, after some time it just seems to stick around 15fps. I didn’t really have any complaints about performance until this last patch , pretty good up until then.
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I’ve changed nothing. I have a high end Ryzen 9 custom-built system with only a browser and MSFS on the nvme. I have 64GB of RAM and a RTX2080Ti. The system is 1.5 years old now - I never had stutters before. Immediately after the last update, with the Community Folder empty, no new drivers/software/addons of any kind - I immediately had severe stutters/freezes. It changes depending on where I fly - some places are as they have always been, places I have flown with perfect smoothness, like my own area in S. FL, suddenly were wrecked.
And if people with different specs entirely can go to the same place, on different servers, at different times, in different planes, in different weather, with different internet connects, and have the same exact, staggering delays/freezes/stutters and issues it cannot be local, it cannot be hardware, and it cannot be internet connections. I was literally test flying my stream’s upcoming flight plan in Papua New Guinea, when the update came out. I landed and ended my flight.
I then updated.
I reloaded the sim.
I spawned at the same airport I’d just taken off from and landed at.
Freezing, stuttering, jump-backs, delays.
It was unreal and it has never happened before and now happens every single time I go there. It is utterly different while my hardware is utterly the same. The Community Folder was still empty. The only thing that changed was the update - and it is the first time I have had any of the buggy issues (other than the floating-with-flaps one from WU3).
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In case anyone didnt understand my comment that it has to be a local PC issue; what I mean by that is that something MS did in the last update affects some PCs more than others. This doesnt mean that anything is wrong on the PCs. But when two PCs get their stuff from the same server and one has no problem and the other does then the difference is local. This makes it extremely difficult to fix I think. But the fix obviously has to be with MS.
There was some suggestion that it might hit AMD graphics card more than Nvidia. I did ask a few people what their CPU GPU combination is and it would seem obvious now that it is not any specific card related.
If MS or Asobo know what the problem is then it would be good if they simply said that, even if they dont have a solution yet.
It would stop all the speculation.
I dont require details nor are we entitled to that, but simply hearing they have identified the issue would be helpful now.
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No performance issues for me. I routinely get 30-39 FPS with only RARE stutters, My system (home built for $1300), and MSFS settings:
Windows 10
RTX 2070
RAM 32 GB
CPU i7-9700K 3.6GHz
MoB MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
MSFS Graphic Settings:
Rendering Resolution Slider 100
Anti-Aliasing TAA
Terrain Level Slider 150
All other settings mostly HIGH, some ULTRA
Case Study: Aircraft Bonanza G36 Turbo, ILS approach to LAX 07L, Few Clouds, FPS 39 over the water, FPS 31 over the threshold FPS on tarmac 30. Satisfied my expectations.
Before complaining about Asobo check your own house. Just sayin’.
Asobo has acknowledged the issue as many have “complained” about performance since SU3.
If your rig is running to well, I suspect that you would be enjoying it as opposed to trying to antagonize others who are experiencing the stutters. You are obviously are not here to help…
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Hi - am very curious - if you have time can you let us know (us, who have decent systems but are experiencing the stutters/freezes for the first time) what you find at these airports - departing through climb, cruising about 2000ft above mountains or ground?
76T able to depart at all
MPG any heading after departing
ZUNZ heading west to ZULS - on this one, only after I climbed above the mountains (had been traveling at FL145 along the river) did the stuttering and freezes stop and they stopped abruptly.
I used the Caravan and East USA for a server. If you find you have the time and the inclination, it would be interesting to see if you stay stutter free.
My Sim PC
Windows 10
R9 3900X
64 GB RAM 3200MHz
EVGA 2080Ti
ASUS Prime X570-P motherboard
500GB M.2 Samsung
2TB M.2 Samsung
Honeycomb Alpha yoke
Honeycomb Bravo throttle quad
Gigabit Internet (Avg 940Mb down 42Mb up)
If your perception is so acute that you can state what “obviously” is my intention, then I suggest you use it in the stock market…
But seriously, if I weren’t here to help I would not have taken the time to furnish details about my set-up that others might compare and benefit from. In reading this thread and others since the update, it appears that quite a few people aren’t convinced that Asobo has acknowledged the problem or is seriously addressing it. Many consider it a “local” problem that is PC system-specific. Others see it as a global issue that is Asobo’s fault. Ergo, I thought I would suggest to those latter users to analyze their settings and system capabilities before placing blame.
Sorry that you took offense.
I’ll see what I find later tonight. I haven’t flown the Caravan but will give it a try.
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Great - for those facing nothing of the issues it is nice to see if, in similar circumstances they stay clear of it still - maybe somehow that can provide a clue. I have never had any of the issues I have heard other be stricken with (other than that floating flaps issue but I was loaded down in the Caravan on my flights so I was heavy and didn’t face it quite as much). I am most grateful for that and hopeful there will be a fix for what is happening now.
Thanks for the reply.
The reason I believe people are not finding issues is because they are only flying in the same areas in the same plane ( sounds like my parents only go away once a year to the same place) I have had major issues just avoided it. I have reported my major problems to zendesk…I do believe there is a fix, but I dont agree with people statement about "what a pile of ■■■■ going back to my other sim) that is not constructive. Rome was not built in a day. Also may I add, I do believe the sim is broken for others..they have tried everything clean boot…I really dont think us paying customers will find a solution..sadly its a waiting game. I disagree with people that say they have no issues…then be smug about whats going on, its not helpful..As much as I am not helpful in finding a solution. I just hope and prey there is a solution for all the people where the sim in unplayable.
Prime example I flew from Santorini to Gatwick it was a silde show the approach to Gatwick..could not land
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Guys, there’s no reason to jump in and defend the legitimacy of the latest update. This is a bug that should be considered “critical”, since it makes the game practically unplayable. How does it so happen that a bug of this severity is still not patched for 2 weeks is beyond my understanding.
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I needed that!
Perhaps unintentionally, you are a laugh riot! I think you might be on to something, there though,OvertheEDJe.
Who DO all these optimistic, never any problems, “the glass is half-full” types think they are anyway, coming in here and rubbing our noses in our piles and piles of belly-aches?
Sadists, that’s who they are!
My house is checked and I’m getting the stutters,you might not have them but it’s real for many
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If this was for me, I think you should read again what I wrote.