the tower/atc clear you for the active runay, which they decide, based on wind (mostly). Some airfields, for exaple Aspen, allow tail wind landings upto a certain limit; as they only have 1 instrument approach rw if the weather closes in a little.
This issue has been going on for sometime. In IFR flight with a flight plan, when descending into an airport not using a specific approach, but DIRECT in the flight plan, ATC does not give the best runway for landing. It should always give the best runway keeping the aircraft into the wind, unless IFR conditions only allow the use of an IFR runway. Example⊠Landing at Les Moines Intl. The wind was at 129 degrees at 10 so the obvious choice would be to land on runway 130. Instead, ATC instructed landing on runway 23, with a crosswind. Why? Another example⊠landing at Centennial in Denver. Wind is 340 at 15 so the obvious choice is runway 35. Instead ATC instructs the use of runway 17 to land with a tail wind. Why? These are just two examples of ATC not selecting the best runway to land INTO the wind. ( I have found that ATC will correctly select the right runway for Take Offs so that your will be heading into any wind )
Just landed at Ronaldsway - Isle of Mann, with the Cub. I landed on the right runway according to wind, but ATC gave me rwy 26 with winds from 026
Just found this topic. I have the same problem here. Selecting Rwy 29 from the ATC menu (âselect runway for takeoff-> rwy 29â) but it says ârequest taxi to runway 2â
Hereâs another example of how incorrect the ATC runway selection is⊠my flight was from Seattle to Vancouver, Canada. On approach, ATC instructed an ILS landing to runway 26L with the wind at 102 @ 27. Why didnât it select runway ILS runway 08R to land INTO the wind? Every windsock I could see when I landed showed the wind coming from 102 degrees at a hefty 27 kts! Runway 26 was not the optimum runway to land on, 08 was.
For clarity to folks who might not understand this⊠(sorry to those who do) Example: Wind numbers say where the wind is coming from. Wind 270 means that the wind is coming from the west, and blowing towards the east. If you point west (270), you will have the wind in your face as a headwind. If you point east (270 - 180 = 90), you will have a tailwind, or the wind at your back.
Same issue. ATC is not assigning the best Rwy.
It happens probably because I start the flight with Clear Skies (To avoid the issues with Real Weather) and then I move into Real Weather.
The wind does not seem to affect the ATC on Rwy selection neither to ATC in departure or arrival
Itâs so frustrating. And itâs not because of a sudden change of weather either. ATC cleared me for this same runway whilst I was 83 miles outâŠ
So I cancelled IFR and tried contacting the tower directly. But no, still wanted me to land in a 17knot tailwind. ThanksâŠ
The sim has done the hard bit, which is replicating real-world weather accurately! Youâd think selecting the appropriate runway would be the easy part.
Canât you request a different approach or runway?
Thereâs so much extra unnecessary discussion about this here. Itâs just a bug plain and simple. Tower isnât over complicating things or adding all these extra wind elements into your landing clearance etcâŠ
Itâs happened to me numerous times so far with no logical explanation except itâs a bug. Their simply not matching up the best runway with the current reported weather.
Just flew into MYGF in Bahamas tonight and wind was literally from 060 but yet they vectored me to land on rwy 24 instead of 6.
Game has plenty of annoying bugs and this is just one of them.
Look at weather during flight planning and select runway accordingly if you want it to be better matched up with windâŠ
Well now that you cleared it up for us all we understand it is a âbugâ
What exactly is new then in your findings ?? However ⊠just because the wind is out of 060 does not mean IRL runway 06 would be usedâŠterrain, approaches and noise abatement could mean a small tail wind component on a long runway may still be acceptable procedure.
Sadly the related âbugâ topics has already been archived.
ATC doesnât select the runway correctly, and ATIS doesnât seem to have the right runways
Not sure if we need to open a new discussion in the bug section to keep the issue âaliveâ until it is âfixedâ.
Are more people struggling with the ATC giving you (wrong) runway assignments, resulting in tailwind landings? It seems to do this quite consistently.
Is there a workaround for this (other than just not using in-game ATC)?
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Hi there,
does anybody have the issue, that MSFS ATC chooses the exact opposit takeoff runway (direction) once you launched the flight, than MSFS told you in the ingame flightplanner (world map) and also live weather wind conditions would require.
For example: wind is 236/8 (according to the popup in the flightplanner), the flightplanner says runway 27 for takeoff. But once you request IFR clearance ingame, ATC directs you to rwy 09.
I think this happens since the last update (world update UK). And it happens on any airport I tried.
Anybody recognized this?
(no 3rd party weather tools installed - all default)
(starting cold&dark at the gate of course)
Hi,
Since I only fly with live weather on your advice, I noticed the same thing.
On my flight to Dublin after the UK update, ATC gave me runway 28l even though there was a strong crosswind and runway 16 would have been available.
no 3rd party weather tools installed - all default
starting cold&dark at the gate in EDLP .
This has happened to me more than twice. On each occasion I have landed according to the wind direction, especially with a tail wind of 20 kt. On both occasions I was not clear to land and told very abruptly that my landing was unauthorised and ordered off the runway. IRL I have landed with a tail wind - scary.
Yeah, it happend to me occasionaly too, especially during approach. But on departure, ATC always chose the correct runway (according to the wind direction) - even if the runway was closed IRL ( ) . But now I always get the tailwind rwy. This is new to me.
I think Iâve had this for as long as I remember. With and without using REX weather force.
I just dont use atc anymore. Although they still always tell me that I was unauthorised for take off
Assign your approach runway into your flight plan. So when you make the flight plan, take a note on the wind direction in the world map. Then set your approach and STAR to land into the runway that you want.
Voila.. no more tailwind landing.
Same here. The SIM ATC is great for practicing your tailwind landings, an important skill as any real life pilot will tell you. I find that (in central US), metars are more reliable than ATC for surface wind.
A lot of the basics arenât hereâŠletâs face it. We are in flightsim purgatory. Canât move to another platform weâve been spoiled with such a beutiful world. Yet, many basic rudimentary aviation elements are broken or completely missing. It gives me the fear that we will be charged for these things in the future after all the âXbox styleâ simmers have been satiated.