Autothrust disengages itself randomly on PS5

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

The Autothrust of the planes with autothrust disables itself randomly on PLAYSTATION 5. I can reproduce it all planes with autothrust it had flown so far: PC 12 NGX, CESSNA CITATION LONGITUDE, the VisionJet. It happens while climbing or even is straight flight with autopilot on. Sometimes you end up reactivating it every 20 seconds or so while having no increased simrate. Sometimes it even survives maxed out simrate for a while. It is disabled completely random.

I play on PS5 with dualsense and no additional hardware, so i am sure that it is not deactivated by an unintentional input like a hotas thrust lever, since I don’t have one. And in ps5 thrust + and - is assigned to X and O, which i did not touch in those cases.

You can not have the A/T on for a longer time. It bugs out.

I am not sure if it is a symptom of the avionic crashes we see on PS5 regularly:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vision-jet-g3000-avionics-map-instability-on-ps5

Or

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/g1000-crashes-reboots-regularly

Or if it’s an issue on its own.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Every flight with the pc 12 ngx/vision jet/cessna citation longitude/ pc24: several times. In a longer flight you end up npt using A/T cause you get tired of reenabling it every 20 seconds or so.

Sometime A/T lasts several minutes, sometimes it disables after 5 seconds… it’s like sometjing in the avionics subsystems crashes.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Fly PC12 NGX with Autopilot in to ensure smooth flight

  2. Enable A/T

  3. See how often during ascend, cruise and descent you have to reenable it.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

PS5, dual sense only, standard key assignments, no hotas

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Today I bought the vision jet. I noticed, that the autothrottle of this plane on PS5 is also randomly is deactivated, even on a smooth autopiloted linear ascend.

I am not sure, if it is tied to the glascockpits and their subsystems going through resets or if this is an issue on its own on PS5. Maybe it is a symptom of the glasscockpits crash regularly. I don’t know.

Edited the thread to add the vision jet to the issue

These are the only planes I have currently with autothrottle. Maybe even more planes are affected.

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Just a though, but do you have the TOGA engaged at the same time? Not sure how that would work on PS5,

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No i haven’t. It works for a few seconds and than disables randomly, even without touching the controller at all.

And yes I habe a keybind signed up for toga, but didn’t use it on that planes yet.

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This has cost me a whole mission today. Plane was on an ascend. I set up autothrust significantly below the max velocity. I left the plane just for a moment, relying that, the autothrottle would limit the speed as set when reaching cruise altitude. I came back from the bathroom: plane in slight overspeed, and than “You crashed your plane” message in smooth flight. Yeah, great. Having to pay for doing nothing wrong… great. I was kinda annoyed.

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Update: The Cessna Citatiion Longitude is also affected. The A/T disables randomly on PS5.

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Update: i flew again the citation today: You can not have a/t on for longer. It disables itself so so so often. Today I thought, I have seen a warning message in the pfd of the g5000 in the moment A/T disabled itself. It was away before I could read it.

I am not sure if it is a symptom of the avionic crashes we see on PS5 regularly:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vision-jet-g3000-avionics-map-instability-on-ps5

Or

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/g1000-crashes-reboots-regularly

This needs to be fixed desparetly. A/T is not useable on all planes I tested. I edited the original post to reflect the newest information on that issue.

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he Pilatus PC-24 is also affectet

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Added the pc 24 to the tags.

To my mind, this is not a plane specific bug. It is a general issue of the msfs (at least on ps5).

Which platform are you on?

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It’s definitely not something that is occurring regularly on PC. The only AT disarming I have had is because of mistakes I have made

EDITED: This started happening yesterday in the Longitude.

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Yeah. It seems to be an issue with PS5. I have XB also and there are no auto-throttle disconnect or avionics issues.

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i am also on the PS5.
Bug was in Career Mode.

Also in Career Mode, the PC-24 Landinggear is buggt,… maybe the Auto Thrust Bug is Career only? Or did you have it in Free Flight?

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Certainly I only play careermode as I considered this the main game mode after opening the main menu.

The avionics and autothrottle crashes currently are crazy. Maybe I will try next time free flight but I didn’t think, that I could make a difference. I thought all would be the same , apart from the management aspect and the mission system on top.

Did you notice any difference in freeflight mode?

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Yes, the Landinggear Problem with the PC-24 is only in Career Mode, i had it never in free flight.

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Do you have autothrottle diaconnects in freeflight mode, if you use a longitude, pc24, pc12 or vision jet if you do a longer flight?

Sometime it disconnects after few seconds, sometimes after several minutes. If I do a vip mission with the longitude i get it several times on a flight. Same with the pc12.

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Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

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Tip for replicating the issue on base PS5:

Take the citation longitude (or the pc 12 ngx… etc) in careermode, play a VIP mission e.g. from france to finland or so, try to use the autothrottle during climb (eg. to FL 400), horizontal phase and descent. Use it also on an IFR Aproach.

It will happen even if you avoid increasing the simrate. It surely will happen at some point. Sometimes autothrottle will stay with you several minutes, sometimes only a few seconds. Sometimes it even survives increased simrate for a while, sometimes it disconnects during a smooth climb without any disturbance on normal speed simrate. It is as random as rhe avionics crashes on all glass cockpits.

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Another user created an own thread on that issue.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/at-frequently-disengages

Maybe his new thread should be tied to this thread here, which is already in the feedback-logged state.

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Same problem here… but I’ve discovered something… The AT disconnects when I adjust the power settings with a peripheral (joystick, HOTAS, etc.). Adjusting it manually with the mouse at MCT does register the step and it doesn’t disconnect again (But it’s per power lever)

With a joystick (at least with mine: Thrustmaster), the power levers react without that “stuck” effect at each step (MCT or T/O); that is, it’s linear.

So, in my opinion, a calibration adjustment for the joystick or any power peripheral would be needed with the PC24 for it to react perfectly.

(I’m a PC user)

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For me on ps5 A/T even disconnects when I completely put the controller out of my hands in a smooth ascent, descent, horizontal flight, curve…. Completely random.

I am not sure, but I guess, i saw a warning in the g5000 of the longitude for a fraction of a second when it disconnected in a flight today. But i saw it only once, because I don’t observe the warning section of the pfd all the time… and sometimes AT disconnects after seconds, sometimes after minutes - thats why I can’t observe the warning section all the time to catch a message that appears only for a fraction of a second in the Cessna Citation Longitude.

Today in my PC 12 NGX, It also disconnected again and again and again and again. Unfortunately the honeywell avionics didn’t show anything apart from the blinking AT-Symbol as it disconnected.

I play only with dualsense controller. So it’s not peripherals as root cause for me on ps5.

In my flight with the citation longitude today i had to re-activate AT 15 times and than gave up… It should be really easy to reproduce. Do a VIP mission with the longitude, try to use the AT, an watch how often you need to reactivate it. You will easily notice it, as the longitude does not stop calling out “autothrottle, autothrottle, autothrottle, autothrottle,…” until you re-activate it.