Not noticing any sounds from the landing gear (in the Bonanza, not tried the Baron yet) apart from when lowering and raising it.
A very muted thud when I touch down, and it doesn’t seem to make any difference what terrain I’m taxiing over it all sounds the same.
I’m used to the A2A Comanche giving different sounds if I stray onto the grass or rougher areas off the main taxiway. Is the real Bonanaza just very well insulated from these sounds or is it not being simulated ?
quick q: is there a way to warm up the cabin without igniting the actual combustion heater? something like getting warm air from the engines? the combustion heater is way too strong for just a cool day where you need to warm up a couple C
Ahh, I am such a sucker for this kind of thing! Comments on your post:
Agreed, and I actually mentioned the same thought in my post.
Two things here:
Indeed, the EDM DOES show the current horsepower.
As for the “estimate”: what I was mentioning is really a bit more robust than just an estimate. The calculations are actually based on sound internal combustion engine principles. But agreed and understood there are some relatively minor simplifications and assumptions that will affect the accuracy. But those should really not result in significant discrepancies: I would suggest that inaccuracies in setting RPM and MP based on a relatively small analog gauges are likely to have a similar or even larger impact.
So I decided to do just that! Remember my “sucker” comment at the start of the post…
To get a sense of the numbers, I set up the aircraft in a climb to 10,000 ft and recorded the information from the EDM. One can obviously go crazy with the number of discrete settings you record but I decided to keep it simple:
Full throttle (29.6"MP) and pitch fully fine (2,700 RPM)
Full throttle (29.6"MP) and 2,500 RPM
25" MP and 2,500RPM
I did this for both climbing and in level flight @ 10,000 ft. and all at full rich mixture. In addition, I also took the readings at 25/25 at 10,000 ft with the mixture leaned to 30°C ROP. I then calculated the % horsepower from the EDM. I then also calculated the “theoretical” horsepower at the different MP & RPM settings based on the observed maximum horsepower. This is what the results looked like:
The maximum horsepower indicated by the EDM during the climb and once at cruise level was 312 and 321 HP respectively. I am at a loss to explain this difference. In any case: I used those maximum numbers to calculate the % power at the reduced settings for the two scenarios.
Both during climbing and cruising, the 29.6" MP and 2,500 RPM settings showed higher numbers in the EDM than I expected. I cannot understand 96% of maximum horsepower at those settings during climb for instance. Quite frankly, I believe the 96% number to be inaccurate and the calculated 93% number to be more correct. As an additional check, I compared the EDM fuel flow at the two settings. The 26 gph number is 91.5% of the 28.4 gph number: this I consider plausible. Either way: not a train smash.
The EDM and calculated horsepower at 25/25 was to all intents and purposes identical in all scenarios. Even the leaned number was essentially the same. This surprised me initially but I will assume that it just means the richer mixture is just wasted fuel without any benefit whatsoever. In any case: both methods (EDM and first principles derivation) indicate 78% power @ 25/25. I find this plausible and reasonable.
Not of interest for 99.9% of forumites, nor a lot of value in all this I suppose, other than I enjoy doing this kind of thing! So in future I would probably use 27" MP and 2,500 RPM for climbing as it seems a reasonable balance between overall speed and economy/prudence!
Is there an easy way to preview the Bonanza interiors? Without loading the aircraft, loading into the sim, hitting shift-c to jump into the cockpit, go back to the main menu, select another livery, rinse and repeat….
Also, funny that I never noticed this before, but I guess 2024 doesn’t have the hangar view that 2020 had?
Nope, which is pretty wild considering the variant/livery selection screen fully renders/loads the 3D model, so that should be the place where you can fully inspect an aircraft before starting a flight - hopefully something added in the future
According to Black Square they won’t submit the current version 1.0 aircraft to MS/Asobo until update 1.1 will be ready. Version 1.1 is already worked on and they hope to get it out this week on JustFlight. After that they will submit the new version 1.1 to MS/Asobo and then it’s their turn with the approval process (which we know is kinda slow).
Black Square is very active on the JustFlight forums, so maybe you want to follow them there.
From what I’ve gathered, no, unless you’re in the TP Bonanza (in which case you can pull hot air from the P2.5 and if needed P3 bleeds). Unlike the Dukes, I believe the only cabin heat source is the combustion heater. What I usually do is cycle it on and off, or just accept the mild fuel burn and just leave the heat barely cracked open.
I’ll double check the manual and edit this if I find something different but after flying the bonanza and baron for a while I haven’t found anything.
Like the Baron Pro. The only thing I didn’t like was that there is an old tick sound every 3 or 4 seconds in external view. Not sure what it is but it is a bit of an immersion killer.
Amazing aircraft for sure! I loved flying the original BS Bonanza and the Bo Pro and Baron Pro are amazing! Did a few flights on VATSIM in VR and these are just amazing!
One question, though - For the pressurized Baron - has anyone gotten a Diff Press annunciator (and a diff pressure in the red) when flying around 18 - 20k feet? I did a flight last night at 19k’, set the altitude to 20k’ (I forget what the corresponding cabin alt selected was), both pressure and door seal switches engaged. Cabin climb seemed normal, but the diff pressure kept creeping up until it ran into the red (20psi) and the light went on. I have used the pressurization systems in many other MSFS aircraft (BS TBM, for example) and never had a problem. Just wondering if maybe I’m missing something with the pneumatic system on the Baron.
Anyway, this is a great addition (as is the Bo!) and I’m looking forward to flying this one more in VR!
I have problems to start the Bonanza TP. I follow the start check list, wait until I.T.T. raise to around 15-17% before i add the mixture, but ITT raise to 40% and than back down, raise again, than back down. This happen rapidly. The engine wont turn on.
I checked different Youtube videos if I miss something, but I cant find anything what I miss.
Was this after engine shutdown? If so you’re hearing the sound of the metal components in the engines cooling down. I can’t say I’ve heard any other ticking noises from the Baron.
I’ve gotten this twice. Once I think I climbed too fast and the cabin pressure couldn’t keep up. The other time… the door was open – I must’ve randomly clicked it, because I never opened it intentionally.
I believe you’re referring to the gas generator RPM (Ng), not ITT. Did you check your engine health in the tablet to see if maybe the engine has already been damaged? It’s also possible you have a controller mapping conflict with fuel selectors or condition lever.
I have if I out climb the pressurization system, but the Baron is also not very forgiving with cabin altitude and delta P. If your density altitude is extra high (e.g. flying at 13,000ft but it’s a warm day with density altitude closer to 15,000) you’ll need to raise your selected cabin altitude to avoid over pressurizing the cabin. Compared to other Black Square aircraft, I find the PBaron needs a lot more care with the pressurization.
Due to the low airspeed associated with takeoff, airplanes often require supplementary cooling, which is where the cowl flaps come into play. By opening the cowl flaps, pilots can help regulate the airplane’s engine temperatures during takeoffs and other low-airspeed operations. Once the airplane has achieved cruising altitude, pilots will typically close the cowl flaps.
In very hot weather they should also be used if engine temps rise when starting. In cold weather for starting, the other way around to warm the engine until temps again (if they do) get too warm.
so does it lower the CHT? and should it always be used on runup and takeoff? thanks, this is helpful. and yes i know i could google this but i was looking if there was any specifc situations with the bonanza in particular in MSFDS