Black Square Steam Gauge Overhaul Baron 58

I have a problem with the Baron. When I first installed it all worked fine. Now I am unable to select fuel selector switches to ON. When I click on the switch it just toggles on/off and then stays OFF. I have switches allocated that work fine with the G58. Any Ideas. Without the fuel selector switch on there is no way I can start the engines either turbo or non turbo.

Sounds like a conflict with an external device or some sort of multiple mapping.

I have checked that, Nothing allocated to those two switches anywhere else. Also why can’t I open the fuel selectors with the mouse ?

Whenever I have had this happen, it ended up being a binding conflict, even though I was sure it wasn’t. If something turns off right after you turn it on, it’s because some switch is doing a “constant off”, not just a “toggle off”.

One really useful thing you can do, but it takes time, is go through all of your key bindings: keyboard, alpha/bravo or whatever other controls you have and check that only things you want bound are actually bound.

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Thanks for that, and I have done what you said. The two switches work as they should with the G58 no probs. Also when I start the flight sim the aircraft engines are running but stop very quickly and I notice the fuel selectors are OFF !!!

However I removed the switches that I had to operate the fuel selectors and now I can open them with the mouse ?? A bit primitive isn’t it ???

OK so I changed the two switches for the Fuel Selection and it works fine with the g58 MSFS A/C but will NOT work with the BS analogue Baron… What is needed to use switches on the Aircraft rather than clicking a mouse on the item ?

did you try creating a dedicated profile ? maybe check on your keyboard controls and delete associated binds

Are you using TCA Airbus quadrant?
If so, try deleting every assignment for the Engine Master / ING switches.

I have disabled ANY switches that relate to the fuel tank selection and the system will work by using the mouse to turn on the switches in the cockpit, but my whole sim is established to use dedicated switches and NOT the mouse.

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How do I set altimeter precisely?
I set 29.92 from the external cam but it looks 29.95 in the cockpit.

Got a really weird problem here regarding the failure system contained in the Bendix weather radar. This appears to only affect the normally aspirated Baron, not the turbo charged Baron nor any of the other Black Square aircraft. (I own all of them). I recently purchased the aircraft and downloaded it directly into my Community folder without issue (purchased as part of the Bonanza/Baron package). I spawned into the sim on the ramp for a cold and dark start. I took my time to familiarize myself with the cockpit and the checklists. I was having problems starting the engines right out of the box and couldn’t work out what the problem was. I followed the checklists to the letter and made sure that they were adequately primed etc… I’m fairly familiar with the procedures anyway, having logged a fair few hours in Barons in the somewhat distant past IRL. The engines would turn over but never fire up. The problem lay in the failures section featured in the Bendix radar.

After much investigation and testing, I’ve found source of the problem (bug?) is that the engine condition keeps steadily decreasing from the moment you spawn in on the ramp without even switching anything, even the battery master switch on. The engine condition indications (both engines) steadily decrease by about 1% every 15-20 seconds from the moment that I am spawned in at the ramp and given enough time, will go all the way to zero, so by the time I had familiarized myself in the cockpit, read through some of the checklists, completed the before start checklist and was ready to start the engines, their condition had been reduced to zero. I repaired both engines (thinking that for some bizarre reason they had been set to zero as default?), set the global failures to “NO Failures”, checked to see if there were any active failures (there were not), and tried to start the engines again. They both started on the first attempt without issue. I then immediately checked the engine conditions again and saw that they were a couple of percent below 100% (one was slightly lower than the other and this related to the fact that this engine was the second one to be started). Once the engines are running, the issue no longer persists so I can reset the condition to 100% on both engines and get on with my flight without further issue. I do however have to do this at the start of every flight or the engine conditions will soon prevent me from being able to start them again due to the cumulative effect of this problem. As this doesn’t affect the engines once they are running, it will not affect runway starts with the engines running or, I presume, spawning in in the air. (I never do either of these).
I have tested this with my community folder emptied of everything bar this aircraft, have uninstalled it, rebooted and redownloaded / reinstalled it but the issue persists.
I’d be surprised if I’m the only one to have this issue but I haven’t seen or heard of it being reported before but it may go some way to explaining why so many people have had trouble starting the engines (poor technique aside) and reverted to using an auto start or runway / air starts.

To test it you simply need to

  1. Select the normally aspirated Black Square Baron (it must be the normally aspirated one).
  2. Load it into the sim at a ramp / parking spot / gate for a cold and dark start.
  3. Turn the battery master switch on.
  4. Turn the top right knob on the Bendix weather radar to “NAV”.
  5. Sit back and see if the engine condition for both engines starts decreasing by about 1% every 15-20 seconds.

Apologies for the novel but I wanted to be clear on the issue and what I’ve done to resolve it to eliminate the usual questions like emptying the community folder etc.

Let me know how you get on or if you know of something that I’ve missed.

Same here.

I was noticing that before I reloaded. I had some odd win11 issues so I formated and re-loaded win11 and MSFS. I’m running 1.33.6.0 and the problem has not come back.

do you release the starter ? got this slowly damaging engine, if my Starter keep active (like when I hold too long the mouse click, in your case it may be a bind issue ?) … if I crank it once and then put it in “both” no issue

It starts as soon as you spawn in, quietly degrading your engine condition even as you just sit in the aircraft cold and dark so it’s definitely not the starter. For some reason in this aircraft when I use the mouse to turn the mags to the start position, instead of remaining in the start position for long enough to start the engine, it flicks back to the both position far too fast for the engine to start. I read in previous posts on this thread that you need to use the mouse to set the mag switch to start and then catch it with a mouse click to hold in the start position before it goes back, so I have to release the starter by lifting off the held mouse button when the engine kicks over. Visually I can see the mag switch go back to both when I do.
Appreciate the response / suggestion.

@meh1951
Interesting. I’m on Win10 and haven’t had any weird issues but out of curiosity, what did you have to reformat?

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Parallax error?

I had upgraded to 11 about a year ago and just wanted to get a “clean” install of 11.

Ah, that might be the case!
I’ll try keep my eye point level to the needle next time.
Thanks!

I’m trying to bind the AirConditioner on/off switch, in SPAD… cannot find the LVAR, or whatever it uses… Got most of the other switches working, but this one is a mystery…