Can we get an honest and open explantion about what is going wrong with the Marketplace?

Yeah, highly possible. And i’m also not saying that’s a good thing. I’m trying to explain why we will not get a so called “honest and open” explanation. They can be absolutely honest answer in ‘Technical difficulties’. If that’s the case, they are honest, right?

It’s the openes that is withheld. And in that case, I can’t blame them. Our views on this can be ofcourse different. But have been in this position myself, I’m completely able to relate (both as in procedures as in technical).

Official statements and reality have seldomely anything to do with eachother. In all seriousness, we have holiday in Europe and french people hold their free days just as high as us germans. It‘s law in France too that once granted holidays can‘t simply be revoked just because some american company forgot about that in their rushing schedule. People have kids, have booked their vacation a year ago and drive down the autoroute du solei for a 2 or 3 week beach chillout without laptop and work. And no employer who got their senses together will try to force their employees to cancel their vacation for some pressing publisher. Technical issues, yep.. sounds better :wink:

Employers will be in deep s**t if they did. We are quite protected in certain countries in employee rights.

Once written an holiday optimizer (contracters, employees, time scheduling), my god, the rules, one error and it would have been an utterly disasterous s**tshow.

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That’s fair.
MS/Asobo want ‘happy marketing’.
And whilst many are having a smooth experience with the sim, clearly many are not.

Exactly this

You mean, as in “There is no Marketplace update as previously planned today due to an internal issue that requires more investigation on our end.” [emphasis added]

That’s an exact quote from their marketing / public relations

Again, personally that’s all I care to know (as a consumer) at this moment…

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Do you know how app submissions to the Google Play Store work (to name just one example)? Please go look at that before spouting nonsense. Just because the Marketplace’s submission process is a mess doesn’t mean it shouldn’t and can’t be improved - quite the opposite!

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The thing is, a lot of users require an understandable explanation (as i understand), but sometimes it’s doing more harm then in solves.

That, took, so, many, years.

Something that would help is an overview of addins that actually give these issues. I’ve read this topic again, there are a lot of complaints here, but I can’t find what addins you folks are actually talking about. What updates for what addins go wrong ? Orbx may e.g. have updated London, I don’t know. Two times I tried via Content Manager and it did download a bunch of stuff, but London looks the same.

No. You don’t. That’s just an exagerated expectation of “consumer rights”.

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It’s about openes in the issues with the store, not the products :wink:

should i have adressed it as understanding where consumer rights ends, as in where it becomes understandable? Thanks for correcting though :slight_smile:

Sorry, my English semantic parser is throwing a “don’t understand this”-exception here - can you rephrase this? :wink:

App submissions!.. what on earth are you on about?

So? The OP is “Can we get an honest and open explanation about what is going wrong with the Marketplace” - that leads to what can be done to improve it. Let’s look at systems that do this successfully already and refine them as solutions. Microsoft is fortunate to NOT be the first people to figure this out.

Uhm… i can try?

A lot of things are about getting an explanation, ofcourse. But up to when is knowing details of a ‘technical issue’ a consumer right? Is it when someone understands the problem?

Hopefully this is better explained?

Yes, app submissions that integrate with Android’s OS. Add-ons to MSFS aren’t that different technically. That is “what on earth I’m on about”.

Well, MFS is an app that integrates (runs on, just like an android app) with/on the OS. So it kind of ends there ;).

The google app store and the MS store are on same level. An in app store is not :wink: They are both application distribution platforms (MS store even allows additions where the android store does not, unless this has been changed).

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Well, getting an explanation about internal issues - or even about when they are going to be fixed - is very obviously not a consumer right. If that was your point anyway. Or am I still misunderstanding your argument here?

What happens when you install the app on the OS? (Btw that wink is kind of condescending)