He owns and flies a Mooney M20 E, according to what he said
I was asking why @BubblyDruid56 said what he saidā¦
I donāt know, Iāve never flown a Mooney before. Highest performance plane Iāve flown is a PA28R180 Arrow (and owned a Cherokee for a long time, hoping to buy another next year), so, not much experience there⦠a couple of little putt-putts ![]()
My bad. I got confused and thought you were talking to Gringo ![]()
Hmm, Iāve not had to turn NAV mode on, GPS works fine for me
However I use āprocā in the GNS530 and select an approach, which lines me up with the runway already. So I donāt think I need to use NAV/VLOC in that case, right?
Well, I was able to create a livery for the Mooney, and, through the aircraft.cfg, I did at least change the manufacturer to Mooney from Carenado, which was a win. But, it seems to have ignored my pilot callouts. But, perhaps with a little ingenuity, it can be adjusted using the right values.
Hereās the Aircraft.cfg Iām using⦠I havenāt released the livery yet because I havenāt figure out how to change the color of the Registration number without screwing up the instruments with the panel.cfg hack (most of the digital readouts canāt be read, they work, you just canāt see them). I tried creating my own panel.xml file, but, I couldnāt figure it out after several hours of trying to figure out circuit numbers.
Hereās the aircraft.cfg for the livery (note that the atc_id_color = doesnāt work in the aircraft.cfg file)
Iām pretty sure I got all the āperformance =ā values correctly adjusted (I assume they are used somewhere in a specification list. Not all of them show up in the hangar).
I havenāt figure out what those decal stripes are from on the wingtips. They donāt show up if I donāt paint the wingtip, but when I do, there they are (???)
[VERSION]
major = 1
minor = 0
[VARIATION]
base_container = "..\Carenado_M20R_Ovation"
[GENERAL]
atc_type = "TT:ATCCOM.ATC_NAME MOONEY.0.text"
atc_model = "TT:ATCCOM.AC_MODEL M20.0.text"
Category = "airplane"
pilot = "Pilot_Female_Casual"
copilot = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
instructor = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
performance = "Maximum Speed\n197 kts 365 km\/hr\n\nCruise Speed\n174 kts 322 km\/hr\n\nEngine\nContinental IO-550-G 6 cylinder 280 bhp\n\nPropeller\nThree-Bladed Macauley Constant Speed\n\nMaximum Range\n1350 nm 1553 mi 2500 km\n\nService Ceiling\n20,000 ft\t 6096 m\n\nFuel Capacity\n95 gal\t 360 L\t \n\nEmpty Weight\n2,290 lb\t 1,039 kg\n\nMaximum Gross Weight\n3,368 lb\t 1,528 kg\n\nLength\n24 ft, 7 in 7.5 m\n\nWingspan\n36 ft, 1 in\t 11 m\n\nHeight\n8 ft, 3 in\t 2.5 m\n\nSeating\t 4\n\nUseful Load\n1,078 lb\t 490 kg\n"
icao_type_designator = "M20R"
icao_manufacturer = "Mooney"
icao_model = "Ovation"
icao_engine_type = "Piston"
icao_engine_count = 1
icao_WTC = "L"
[PILOT]
pilot = "Pilot_Female_Casual"
copilot = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
instructor = "Pilot_Male_Casual"
pilot_default_animation = "Idle1_PosePropeller"
copilot_default_animation = "Idle2_PosePropeller"
pilot_attach_node = "PILOT_0"
copilot_attach_node = "PILOT_1"
[SERVICES]
FUELTRUCK = 1
BAGGAGE_LOADER = 0
CATERING_TRUCK = 0
BOARDING_RAMP = 0
GROUND_POWER_UNIT = 0
PUSHBACK = 0
SMALL_PUSHBACK = 0
MARSHALLER = 1
JETWAY = 0
[TIMELINE.FLIGHT_RUNWAY]
Flaps = 0
[fltsim.0]
title="Carenado M20R N20JX"
model="N20JX"
panel=""
sound=""
texture="N20JX"
kb_checklists=""
kb_reference=""
atc_id="N20JX"
ui_manufacturer="Mooney"
ui_type="M20R Ovation"
ui_typerole="Single Engine Prop"
ui_createdby="Carenado / Archer374"
ui_variation="N20JX"
description="M20J flown by Daniel Webster College for complex flight training."
visual_damage=1
wip_indicator=2
ui_thumbnailfile=""
ui_certified_ceiling=20000
ui_max_range=1350
ui_autonomy=6
ui_fuel_burn_rate=60
atc_heavy=0
atc_airline=""
atc_flight_number=""
atc_id_enable=1
atc_id_color="0x2F0204"
atc_id_font=""
atc_parking_types="RAMP"
atc_parking_codes=""
isAirTraffic=0
isUserSelectable=1
icao_airline=""
sim=M20R
Iām brand new to the club (yay christmas discount).
I will definitely check this out, thank you!
I made a video that answers some of the ils questions people had. You need to tune in the frequency twice. My video shows it. It also hoes over several auto pilot questions people had.
Hi. Speed brakes control is on the left side of the yoke. The horsepower indicates the percent of rated HP.
Cool. That would explain why it seemed way lower then it should be. Still a way to see power changes while mixing.
Also I can tune only the Garmin for the ILS frequency and it would still capture the GS albeit OBS will not react.
Is the obs the gauge that shows the status of the ils landing? I was aware the plane would fly the approach without putting it in the nav 1, but I thought the ils gauge wouldnāt work showing you that itās working. I generally want the gauge to show me my plane is doing what it should and that the ils beacon is in range.
Itās the CDI and VS that shows the status of ILS approach. In the real manual of the M20R, there is a GS indication in the AP.
The primary radio is NAV1, on the Garmin GNS530. This controls the localizer and glideslope alignment. It also controls the top/down localizer visual on the heading indicator if you tune the course in. If you align the same frequency on NAV2, the physical radio boxes below the garmin, it will use the OBS indicator as a visual glideslope and localizer indicator, purely for your own reference (not top down, the reference is as if the PFD is on the dial but it isnāt. Itās the same perspective as the PFD)
TL:DR, use NAV1 (garmin) to physically align the aircraft using APR mode and use the top-down localizer alignment indicator on the heading indicator, tune NAV2 on radios optionally to use the OBS as a visual indicator.
Took the newly-bought Carenado Mooney out for a ātestā-flight today at NZQN (the worst possible airport to do this imo, as there are mountains everywhere) to learn it a bit. Did some climb, descent, stall etc to get a feel for its speed. Feels like a GA fighter jet! Tough to reduce speed on final without the spoilers. Love the sound, animation and artificial head movement that occurs when spoilers are deployed. Parked and tied it down after a few touch-n-go and a full-stop landing.
Initial verdict: Itās my new go-to aircraft in MSFS. PA44 will have rest for a while now in the hanger.
Had some doubts about the accuracy of its stall and spin characteristics, and so did NOTAM in his Carenado Mooney review on Youtube:
Only for them to be squashed by a former (and verified: Houston area Mooney flight instructor - Miscellaneous Aviation Talk - Mooneyspace.com - A community for Mooney aircraft owners and enthusiasts) Mooney factory test pilot who confirmed the Mooney Ovations ādonāt spin and stall like thatā
Gonna make some coffee and then sit down and watch @CR6914ās tutorial
I find just cutting the throttles without feathering slows it down pretty well. I donāt normally need the speed brakes but sometimes use them. You might be coming in hot on your approach. I slow to 100 on final and it slows to 80 pretty well for touchdown.
Iāve been ādialing inā my pattern work over the past few days. I tend to fly 90 kts downwind flaps one; 80 kts base flaps two; 70 kts crossing the threshold with full flaps. This is faster than the POH (depending on weight) but not by much when crossing the threshold. Throttle is at idle once Iāve established the downwind leg and dropped the first notch of flaps.
I almost never use full flaps. unless your trying to stop on a dime you donāt need full flaps
After noticing that glass cockpits are a bit too blurry for VR flying, I thought Iād take another look at the Mooney. Interested in others experiences with this aircraft and VR. For now, even though itās on sale, I think Iāll wait until the 3d mouse is better supported.
It really looks like a nice one.
good lord, Iāve been totally confused about that HP gauge, but as a percentage of rated power, then that makes sense!!!


