I was talking about this one:
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In the previews at least, the standard arrow seems to get a Garmin and has slightly more wear and tear but otherwise similar. though that may change on release. I like the old school radio stack on the turbo version.
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Yeah. I want that Garmin. 
Screw old-school navigation.
Oh yay, yet another 120kt GA aircraft⊠Iâll hold out for the JF version, it was great in XP plus a turbo version.
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The planes I have flown in the past, or am likely to fly IRL even now, generally do not have a Garmin so I prefer what I am used to 
There are less Garmins about then the sim would have you believe, at least in the Aussie Bush.
Also the in game Garminâs are a bit broken anyway (though there are mods) and do not work well in VR .
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I donât use VR. What I DO like though are the old school 2-axis autopilots that A2A has in their Cherokee and Comanche. Even with my GTN750, I have to babysit that AP cause it wonât trim the AC for you - it just instructs you to trim up or down. Thatâs a bit more fun!
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I also prefer that 1970s vibe, and that red cloth interior. So cool. After some more research I realized that the JF Arrow III is original arrow production and Carenadoâs is just called Arrow (without I, II, III) because it was after Piper went bankrupt and the company was resurrected in the 1990s and started producing New Piper Arrow in 2006. That is the model they simulate. In terms of performance, it is the same 200hp engine, but the cruise speed in almost 10kn lower in New Arrow than in the old one (I am guessing, extra weight?).
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Sounds like there is a flight director without autopilot functionality 
The flight director works out what the aircraft needs to do and tells the AP and real pilot about it. The AP is the bit that mechanically flies the plane.
Though often the term âautopilotâ is used for the combination of both.
JF Arrow III will also have an option with/without GNS530. Carenadoâs is only with double GNS430.
Good point with the autopilot. I assume that both will have modern one with auto-trim.
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No, no. The autopilot keeps flying your GPS course and everything. It also keeps your altitude, but it just wonât trim it. It can basically make MINOR adjustments but you have to trim for it. Also, the GPS course canât have any sharp-ish turns as itâs only able to bank a very limited number of degrees. I will look up the autopilot device number for you. Itâs wicked cool.
S-Tec 30. Here is the discussion on it.
You just made my day. Any idea which Turbo Arrow it is? III or IV? I did my commercial and CFI in a Turbo Arrow IV. I love those airplanes.
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Both in one package Turbo Arrow III/IV with the T-tail
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Indded both as Severeeno says:
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I do find it a little strange that they are planning to sell the regular and Turbo models as separate aircraft⊠But I am likely to get both of them.
If you want both and do not want to pay full price, there will be a package with all three once the turbo arrows are released. If you are patient enough 
. I am guessing up to a few weeks.
Hmmm⊠I am not the patient type⊠so a few bucks discount may not matter.
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Not to hijack, but I see the obvious comparisons being made.
I own every Carenado plane so far, and have spent a few hours with JustFlightâs Piper. Carenado will have the upper hand in this 1v1 when it comes to texture quality, but JustFlight will take it home if youâre looking for uniqueness and character.
Subjective tastes will probably win out here, buy em both 
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I MAY actually get both, because as pointed out above, they are two different eras of the aircraft⊠Being a completist, I am tempted to just get both.
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We may have two piper arrow, one T-45, one CRJ in the coming week, thatâs a lot of money to spend
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