Carenado Piper PA-44 Seminole

Have you other add ons installed, in the community folder?

the working title ones but those should impact the garmins exclusively. I’ll check tomorrow.
but, yes, I need to rule out any incompatibility.

I rename the community folder temporarily for testing, takes all the addon stuff out of the equation,

The compass card when turning the plane (when VOR frequency is ‘locked’).

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no addons at all.

nice regression there.
the only addon left are the carenado mooney and waco.

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Very strange indeed, thx for posting the video!
Does this also happen when starting a flight airborne instead of on the ground?

Tried replicating on the ground, but the HSI worked for me, the only way I was able to get something similar was by turning off battery and alternators while taxi’ing in circles, this stopped the HSI compass rose from rotating, but also the stopped the hdg-bug instead of spinning like in the video.
So there’s definitely a new bug you’ve found, that sucks


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it is broken also when starting from the air. it is broken if using the tablet thingy on the yoke and selecting “cold and dark”, “ready for taxi” and “ready for takeoff”
it is broken.

I’ll leave to others to file the zendesk bug as I totally hate that interface, the videos will stay up if you want to link them. Enough integration and beta-testing for them, that’s their job (and clouseaubo’s), we’ve done enough gratis work already.

Carenado, one more thing, please replace those ridiculous cockpit views with some decent panel close-ups. Really, who is interested in seeing the mag switches zoomed, or the fuel switches or the placard? The same horrible views are setup in all your addons and the community has to supply with “better” (or usable I’d say) camera views.

@anon49064808, as far as I can tell, you’re just about the only one experiencing this problem, so I wouldn’t rely on others to submit bug reports on your behalf. Heck, even if it was widespread, I still wouldn’t rely on others, that’s a bit like having the power in your neighborhood go out but not letting the power company know because you assumed one (or more) of your neighbors already did.

we are already two here, so I expect this to depend on some other factor but, again, it’s clouseaubo’s and carenado’s work to do their integration testing, and their homework overall.

as for the second topic, what you write is precisely what I intend to do, less than one month ago there was a discussion in reddit over the state of the marketplace and the update rollout procedure which was hurting 3rd parties. things have improved apparently, but they can be improved, especially on the testing side.

I simply gave up, when they will fix, they will fix. In the meantime I’ll simply use some other non-broken addon and question myself why, again, I dropped 15€ for another addon on this game. Shame on me.

I’d definitely uninstall those for the moment. This would drive me nuts, but dont give up, I’ve been wrestling with MS Flight Sims for years, sometimes I won, sometimes I lost, but sometimes that’s where the fun is. :slight_smile:

lol thanks. I fight with flight sims since the venerable FS4.0, flight unlimited 2/3 etc.
the ones I skipped are fsx, p3d and xplane
had enough of the world. I got back just now but I see that it’s like Fallout.
“War, war never changes”

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@anon49064808 Clearly you can tell from this thread alone that whatever is causing your woes is not common. Out of all the people using this payware plane you (and one other person?) have stepped forward to say your compass rose (or whatever it’s called) is not working right, while every other person is saying “Gee, I dunno, it’s working for me
”

That means that whatever is the root cause, assuming it’s not as simple as a corrupted download that you just need to redo, is fairly unique and as such, is easy to miss in testing. It means that it’s somehow your system that has something different going on than most other people that is causing your problems.

And then you pop off calling it “clouseaubo’s work” to find and fix it, that sounded so childish I was wondering if you were a 12 year old until you said you’d been simming since MSFS v. 4. So, you’re not chronologically a child, but comments like that only serve to make you sound like one.

But rather than childishly insisting that the metaphorical “they” should have found a unique problem before they shipped the update (that the rest of us are grateful for, even though it seems there are a few more flaws that need fixing), maybe it’s on you to figure out why you’re special in this case.

If I were you, here’s what I would do:

  • Shut down the sim.
  • Find the directory (in file manager) that is holding the complete file structure and delete it. (Mine was in C:/Users/“me”/AppData/Roaming/Microsoft Flight Simulator/Packages/Official/Steam/carenado-aircraft-pa44-seminole).
  • Restart the sim and download the whole package from scratch in Content Manager, and

  • See if the problem is still there.

If it is, then you have some troubleshooting to do. Or, you can skip the troubleshooting and hope that by blind luck bordering on magic, “clouseaubo” and/or “carenado” finds a problem they don’t even know exists, and fixes it for the next patch. Either way, good luck


no need to write such a lengthy paper.

it’s a bug, edge condition, call it as you prefer. technically, a regression, as I had a working gauge and now I don’t have a working gauge. the problem lies on the code of either the addon, or the sim. I have enough software development experience about this kind of problems to know when enough testing has, or hasn’t been done.

like I wrote, I’ll just wait for a fix, no need to hassle too much about the nth release with issues of the core sim or the addons. We saw this multiple times.

thanks for your help.

one more note, I have no troubleshooting to do, if you feel like doing someones else job feel free to do it.
I’m not paid to debug and troubleshoot someones else products.

Can confirm HSI’s CDI is not getting locked to GPS :frowning: But Mooney’s one is working. They indeed fixed the OBS gadget which was totally inop previously.

Also noticed I don’t have the same issue as @anon49064808 showed. But after exiting the sim I remembered that I was testing not with VOR locked, but with GPS locked.

Anyways, I feel that Carenado fixed some issues, but some others still remain. I have only two community mods: Pimarc’s gns 430/530 and WT CJ4.

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Wait @anon49064808!

Have you done this? https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/589768-carenado-pa44-seminole/?do=findComment&comment=4454787

“Delete from Content Manager, close sim, then delete folder in Official/Onestore folder. Then reinstall PA44 in Content Manager.”

If that doesn’t work, repeat the above steps, restart the computer and try again.

@EvidencePlz, isn’t that exactly what I suggested a few posts back? To which he responded that it wasn’t his job?

I’m worried because, since we don’t have a manual, we don’t even know what should and shouldn’t work. As I understand it, not all HSI’s are capable of communicating with the GPS, IOW, they lock with the NAV gauge which is also connected to the GPS and the GPS displays in VLOC mode, but some do not communicate with the output of the GPS. Do we know that it should? I don’t know what model HSI it is or what options it has installed.

did you see the posted picture above? or you didn’t also notice that I wiped out the folder as well, and multiple times, the last one just today.

“no addons at all.”

what part is not clear?

yep, and multiple times, as stated above, see “wiped folder”.
also removed addons, removed community, I don’t have any cache, etc.
all that can be done has been done, even checking the system number formats which can cause problems with badly implemented code.

it might even not be carenado’s fault, e.g. clouseaubo breaking apis in the past and we got CTDs by clicking sunvisor or other moving parts without prior notice to 3rd parties or breaking apis for switches (see indiafoxtecho fuel switch and magnetos).

again, they’ll fix when they’ll fix, as many times in the past in this line of products.

Okay I just wanna confirm one more time: did you restart the whole PC? Like this: