Daher TBM exhaust fumes too intense

Sim Update 2 Beta | MSFS 2024 Aircraft & Systems
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Description of the issue:

Engine exhaust/fumes very intense and flickering. Hard to see out side window and pilot side cockpit.

Did you experience this issue before you joined the Beta?

No.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:

TBM-930

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

No mods installed

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

All the time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Select TBM
  2. Start flight
  3. Get in air
  4. See visuals … I tried only daytime

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

No changes, use for FPS and performance testing

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

Nvidia RTX 5090

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

Three monitor setup if it makes a difference
4K on all three
Default Ultra settings
Tried with DLSS, TAA, none. Frame gen and no frame gen.

MEDIA

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
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Should check Youtube for TBM cockpit videos, I doubt you would be able to see exhaust fumes / heat blurr at all in flight. I used to fly Beechcraft C90 where you could see the exhaust from the cockpit and I don’t recall being able to see much if any heat blurr in flight.

It is probably like the icing effect, looks cool but it is not realistic at all. I would say, as soon as the prop unfeathers the heat blurr isn’t visibile anymore.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• same problem in vr. No fun to fly this great aircraft anymore.

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Here is an example of what’s happening both internal and external view:

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This topic is very similar to the one I’ve already started, though mine was specifically in VR (where the distortion is really bad).

This must be unrealistic as so much of the extererior view is unusable - the TBM would surely not have received an air worthiness certificate. I’m surprised not more people have complained. The TBM certainly used to be one of my go-to aircraft, but not now.

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Hasn’t it always been like that? I agree that it is wrong, at least in flight you definitely won’t see the heat blurr and I doubt you will on ground with the prop unfeathered (except with tailwind maybe). It would be more realistic to have no heat blurr at all on tbe TBM.

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No.

It is even worse in flight.

I certainly agree with that one!

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In addition to this exaggerated effect, looks like it also affects the FPS as it is the worst airplene I have tried with MSFS 2024, even worst than Inibuilds Airbus.

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Yes, the perfromance in the Daher is not good, for whatever reason.

It also badly suffers from the inaccurate windscreen reflections, showing the ground as if the aircraft were made of glass. (Often visible as whites bands crossing the windscreen during take-off due to the impossible reflection of the runway markings under the fuselage.) A lot of unnecessary ray-tracing, so I shouldn’t be surprised if that affects the performance.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• The problem is even worse in VR. You actually see the inside frames and corner post between the windshield and pilot door flickering very badly. So, it’s not just an issue with the outside scenery flickering in the exhaust, it’s distorting the cockpit view and mixing it into the outside view also. You don’t see this too much in 2-D, but very pronounced in VR.

My System Info:

Motherboard: MSI - MPGX570X EDGE MAX WIFI
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
Installed RAM: 32.0 GB
OS: Windows 11 Home Version 24H2 (64-bit)
OS build: 26100.3775
Experience: Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.66.0
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070Ti SUPER
GPU Driver Ver: 32.0.15.7283 (572.83 Released 3/18/2025)

VR Headset: Valve Index
STEAMVR: Beta Version 2.10.2 (1743547584)

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• Attached is a screen shot from 2-D View, but as stated above - it’s even worse in VR.

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Indeed I have the same problem in VR, it is very unpleasant and I think it impacts several aircraft. It’s a shame to go to all the trouble to have a fluid, immersive simulation and have effects that ruin everything.

I read above that it’s not “realistic” couldn’t we just disable it in the options?

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• It is even worse in VR making the whole scene blurry.

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