Disappointed in Sim Update 5

I did a drone capture over Sydney (YSSY). Which I have Orbx city pack..You can clearly see some areas have popped, along with terrible blurred LOD draw.Those you tubers (who I won’t name) saying the game never looks better.Either have blinders on or a paid Asobo/Microsoft shills..

Yes. It’s turning into another MS Flight debacle. Enjoy the quick $$$$ you will get from the couch-sitting, Cheetos-eating crowd over the next few weeks. But do you really think those users will be purchasing from your Marketplace over the next 10 years? Meanwhile, we will wait for x-Plane 12 and other “flight sims.”

If I were a betting man, my money would be on “HELL NO!”

We would if you didn’t continue to degrade this game. Sorry - - have to call it what it is.

For me I’m making a statement I’ll never buy a Microsoft or Asobo again..This has left a very bitter taste in my mouth..Feeling been f over for the corporate dollar..You know where :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: you can put that!!

I agree with you 100%…. What ever your job is, if you don’t do it well… and customer’s suffer… then, I’m sorry, there are consequences! I have consequences at my job if I don’t do it well!

One thing, if voting thread tells us in not so many words they cannot feasibly separate the platforms, so now do we have to have addons that cater for Xbox as well as PC in one addon and so we get garbage level addons that cannot take advantage of higher end hardware on PC?

PMDG Orbx etc now have to cater for Xbox being weakest link in hardware potential before PC, because now we are playing Xbox port.

It’s not that they can’t..Its more do they Asobo/Microsoft want to add more resources which cost money, to Separate..As others have said, they won’t…

After update 5 I have no airport services, no pushback, no catering trucks no baggage loading, everything has been striped down not even airport vehicles, is anyone else have these issues?

As always, I doubt simmers would be so upset if Microsobo had just been upfront with all of us. They obviously knew they were going to cull the scenery in order to obtain their performance improvements. Instead of being upfront with us they paraded this update around as it had many optimizations and enhancements and the sort. In reality they just nerfed LOD at the expense of simmers that had more than adequate equipment to handle what we previously had. With issues surrounding the advertisement of the “live” weather, the watermasking in trailers that were not even present in the actual sim, no multi-monitor support when before launch they promised features with the serious simmers at the top of their mind. This fiasco is just another feather in the cap of Microsobo being deceitful to their loyal player base who would ultimately support this product long term, not the fly-by-night XBOX crowd. Again, like all the issues in the past, they should have just been upfront about how they were going to obtain their performance improvements. I can’t say deceitful enough. Sad.

Yes, its simply sad.

Microsobo is by no means alone in the developer category who disappoints and misleads these days though. Seems par for the course anymore. Not like anyone should be surprised.

You’re right but I am struggling to think of a studio that actually released an 40GB update which made the game look significantly worse graphically and as this is a flight sim, visuals and immersion are at the core of its success or failure in the simmer community.

They just posted there will bs a hot fix tom , but nothing mentioned about the pop in issue :confused:
Also nothing mentioned in the bugs snapshot

We are totally ignored

It is FSX plague allover again, it is if they took part of the old code and slapped into MSFS2020 to make it playable on Xbox. the popping in and out of objects needs to be reversed for PC users.

You are not ignored , you are “take in consideration for further updates” :sweat_smile:

interesting to see that many of the bugs from August are back in he latest update.
Connection keeps dropping (NOT MY INTERNET). Lightening everywhere.
stuttering etc etc.
Things were finally getting better befoore the update.

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LOL

Yes… the simulator is so good… it’s simulating people not wanting to work anymore… so no support vehicles!

I am suffering the same issues mentioned by the OP, I have a RTX 3090 FE (oc’d), and an oc’d Ryzen 9 5950X with 64GB of ram @3800MHz, and the Flight Sim is installed on a PCIE 4.0 Samsung 980 Pro NVME.

I never suffered issues before this update and I was very happy with how flight sim was running on my machine! All what I needed was DX12 support to allow the sim to utilise more CPU threads.

The new update is aimed at helping older systems cope with the demands of this sim, BUT ruins the experience for people with capable systems.

Why do they have to force this update upon us and make it mandatory? :angry:. Why aren’t there options to switch off the new features and go back to how the sim performed previously, for those who want that?

I am happy that more people overall can now enjoy the sim, but it’s annoying that they had to ruin the visuals for those who never had issues to begin with. How hard can it be to offer the new changes as switch buttons that can be turned on/off in the options menu?

I was very skeptical from the beginning about this update, there was no way it was just going to offer free performance without affecting something else in return.

What do I need to do to make my voice heard to Asobo? It’s really annoying.

I am no longer limited by the MainThread or GPU. I am now limited by the RdrThread! CPU 20%, GPU 52%, Memory 32%. Graphics settings are “HIGH” and 120 LOD. I am using the same pre-SU5 settings. I use Real-time Traffic and Live Weather before and after SU5. No mods except Working Title CJ4 and Garmin. Screenshot taken while taxiing at KJFK. The FPS is NOT acceptable! FWIW, Asobo did say that glass panel generation was to be moved off the MainThread in SU5. Looks like it has been moved without fixing performance.

It’s like I posted in another thread. It’s all about equalizing the playing field. It’s the way of the world today. Nobody should be superior to another (except of course for the elites) and so your high end system (and mine) gets Nerfed to even things out. They buff up the mid range PC’s and Nerf the high end to bring everybody in line (with Xbox capability). March step to da’ Fuhrer or get the fook out.