What switches? And what does it mean being all over the place?
Like light switches for example. Some are way over on the co-pilots side.
Quite a few are on the copilot side, so this makes for some panning around the panel. The one instrument on the right side that I wish was not is the Radio Altimeter. Would gladly swap the DME out with that to get it into my instrument scan for landings!
I’m not following. Isn’t that the real location of the switches in the real plane?
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Yes it is. What I am saying is I don’t think a full blown simulation of a Learjet 35A would be too much of a handful for a single pilot in flight simulation.
The location of the switches should be easy to handle via keybinds, I rarely move the view and have no problem flying the Learjet.
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I use TrackIR. No problem flying it either.
I don’t think the update is on market place yet. Any idea when it’ll come to MP?
Well, we fly B737, A320, B777, BAe 146, Fokker F28 and a few other complex planes. I bet we would handle a full fidelity Learjet 35A.
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Thursday, he said on discord.
Sure we could. I flew the 35A yesterday morning, not long before I posted above; I flew the 77W the day before: The workload is higher in the 35A than in the 77W, 737/738 due to the lack of automation or system integration. The question is how much fun it would be single pilot in the sim. So handling it is less the question I raise than how much fun it would be with greater system depth and complexity, as none of that would be automated or integrated as in the modern airliners. And since fun is relative, YMMV, right?
For me there would be a lot of fun.
I don’t agree the workload in B737 is smaller. Programming FMC alone takes more time than starting up 35A. And during a flight there is not much to do in the latter. Monitoring speed, due to lack of auto throttle, is the only thing you need to pay attention to. It would be more challenging if it didn’t have GPS installed.
Flying Piper PA-24 from A2A is more engaging than 35A because literally every system can break in this plane.
For some reason you excluded BAe 146 and F28 I mentioned, both are from the same era and are way more complicated to fly and operate than 35A. Still flying them as a single virtual pilot is not a problem.
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I don’t own those so I would not comment on flying them. Cheers!
I tend to go on feeling as I’m not a real pilot - just an ex aircraft dispatcher AKA Ramp rat.
There are very few aircraft in the sim that give me what feels like a realistic flight experience. This aircraft is one of those rare ones. (The A2A Comanche, the Black Square Dukes and the Just Flight F28 also score highly).
Many of the senior jet captains I worked with (and this was in the days before widespread CRM and high automation ) would always be exhorting their copilots to ”fly the plane”. Sounds a bit basic to a ramp rat - but you find out exactly what they meant when you get into the 35a. The take off roll and rotation make you feel you are right there. But you need to have planned well ahead too as the 35a busts through speed and level restrictions if you don’t… Of course, what the captains meant when they said this is that the aircraft will get ahead of you if you don’t maintain full concentration and plan well ahead.
This and the F28 both give the feeling of flying an old era jet aircraft and I love them both for that. Personally I’m not really wanting to go into such depth as dealing with complex failures, the flight experience is everything, so to me this aircraft rates a rare 10/10…
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Exactly! I never got a chance to fly anything like a Lear back in the day, but listening to flight instructors pursuing their ratings on the road to becoming charter pilots and jet jocks, just exactly! In the sim it is a real challenge to stay ahead of the 35A so kudos to any out there who can. On a good day, I usually can; then there are those other days LOL. All the things they taught us in ground school ring true in the 35A: Fly the airplane. Fly attitude. Pitch + Power = Performance. And the like. Good flying!
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While the update is always appreciated, it’d be nice if they could finally set the Fuel Computers, Anti-Skid, and Jet Pumps to the OFF position when starting from a Cold and Dark configuration. Kinda sucks the realism out of a startup when half the switches are always (already) turned ‘on’…
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I may have received the texture update today. Not sure what the update contained.
Is this coming in msfs2024 ?
Yes but the developer quoted it will take “months” to bring it to native quality for 2024. They also mentioned it will be sold as a package with the cargo and a future medevac versions. Sounds like we’re gonna have to re buy it again for 2024 features. This is the only one I am willing to rebuy because it was my favorite in 2020. Wish they would just do an upgrade fee like everyone else
Did anyone ever get their LEARJET 35A to stream over to the new version? I have not. It never made it. I setup multiple tickets and only got standard answers back- that they are still working on it. Fine. I am curious if anyone has ever got it to populate in their library. That would at least give me hope. One that it’s compatible, and two that it may eventually make it over. For the record, I bought this in the MSFS 2020 marketplace in August, 2024. Not that long ago. So it wasn’t a 3rd party purchase, and did not need to be physically moved to the Community folder.