FS2024 is now fixed. Buy it! Bye bye FS2020

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Since FS2024 launched. I have dipped subscribed to gamepass on 3 occassions to check the sate of the game. Each time, I uninstalled it after 20min. Compared with FS2020, 2024 wasn’t buggy but catagorically felt unfinished and unplayable. Not worth spending £79. Pop-in on a 900mbit fiber to home line and laggy performance on a £1,600 gaming PC was a joke.:enraged_face:

I was what you could consider a Flight Simulator 2024 hater and I was justified in being that.

Yesterday I took the plunge and bought 2024. I’m utterly blown away. It’s the best optimised game that I owned.:heart_eyes:

-London times are insanely fast. Usually in 2020 when starting a flight, I would go to the toilet, fetch a drink or snack, but now that’s not neccessary. Flights load in less than 30sec whether streamed or downloaded.

-Flight model has hugely been improved. Turbulence at low altitude is more realistic. Most importantly it’s much easier to land plane smoothly. I have pulled off landings that are difficult to consistently do in 2020.

-Pop-in is now non-existant. T/his includes when flying plans or areas that have not been cached!! Even when panning around quickly there is no pop-in.

-Fewer micro stutters. Even if played at a lower frame rate than 2020 it feels smoother.

-GPU and and CPU utilisation is first class! I play at 4k TAA at High settings. Only 12GB VRAM and 25GB RAM used when flying over central london at 2,000ft. This is considerably less than what 2020 uses. My CPU runs the game at 67C at 4k TAA. Utterly amazing!

-All my 2020 marketplace purchases and ORBX add-ons throught heir software, are 2024 compatible and work plug and play.

-Vegetation and lighting on building is glorious!

-Unlike in 2024 DLSS is more usable. At Ultra settings the instrument clusters letter and number are a bit soft but tolerable depending on flight.

Hats off to Asobo and Microsoft. FS2024 had a disasterous launch but is now better looking, faster and more resource intensive than 2020.:clap:

Specs

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800x3D

GPU: RTX 4070ti Super

RAM: 48GB DDR4 3200mhz

PSU: 650watts

Screen: LG C1

Today I will also try the game on my Series X. Will let you know what I think!

Like Idris Elba would say:

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This Edris Elba will haunt me for th rest of my life

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i agree, it was usable in su3, now su4 took that a notch further

in my opinion, it’s done, i will uninstall 2020

released maybe a year too early, give or take?

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Agree but keeping 2020 installed as a back-up, for those days when LOL!

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Well, my wife likes to spend my money, so you might as well too.

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IF PMDG 737-700 upgrade pricing is reasonable Ill have the opportunity to uninstall 2020 at that point.

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I will deactivate automatic updates incase sim update 5 messes up the game!

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Performance wise it’s good now, but don’t try the 737 just

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Ok. Will avoid the 737.

I have only tried 2 planes. Which is the best airliner in 2024 and is 100% compatible with the native efb. I don’t want to use sim brief. I play with thrust master captain X.

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You can not deactivate updates for MSFS2024 - they are mandatory and the server/client versions need to match. When you block the updates you will not be able to connect to the servers and the sim will not work!

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It used to be the 737, but i guess it’s the A321 now, which has been added to career in the SU4 update. I’m not an Airbus flyer though so i’m not 100% positive.

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BUT, does it still not save flights?

Do you still need internet connectivity to play the fully downloaded game?

Until they do some about this MSFS 2024 is worthless in my book! I bought it and shelved it!

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I don’t want to pour cold water on this but:-

Whilst performance on Xbox has been substantially improved to the point where MSFS2024 is very very usable - and often shines - the SU4 beta introduced a myriad of WASM instabilities which has broken many systems - and Navigraph updates - on many aircraft. The Just Flight RJ and F28 don’t load in free flight though you can sometimes persuade the F28 to load if you restart (from frozen map) several times.
The PMDG 777s all suffer from frequent long freezes in flight, although I have got through a couple of flights without any, they occur unpredictability and are immersion killers. I enjoy the PMDG 777s and 737-800 to the point that I’m continuing to fly them in MSFS2020.

Edit - same with the Just Flight F28, RJ and 146 - these and the PMDG offerings are superb add ons.

So performance has greatly improved but the WASM instabilities are numerous, some are serious and they will take a lot of time and effort to fix now they’ve been allowed to propagate into the SU4 full release.

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Oh yes. The same is not perfect. I’ll likely encounter bugs too. Small ones I can put up with but others are less tolerable if they mess with your favorite add-ons, plane or pheriperals.

2020 has not been made obsolete and is still a fab game that’s worth buying new today.

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ATC and the ATC window are both far from fixed. Message clipping, replies being read out at the same time as sending messages, instructions and responses not broadcastunable to resize ATC window, window full of heliports to such a degree that I can’t contact the tower until I am right above the airport, unable to request flight following after switching aay from tower frequency, etc. etc. and I’m only VFR. Is IFR still just as bad as ever?

FS2020 was not great but it was 10 times better than FS2024

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I agree, this is my main remaining complaint with 2024. I can’t understand how ATC comms took such a step backwards from 2020, or why a year later it still hasn’t been addressed.

How hard can it be? Port the 2020 code over and let’s go.

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Is atc really that bad in 2024? I will do my first long floght today from Los Angeles to San Fransisco. Will let you know what atc is like.

In 2020 i treated atc like guidance rather than directive. On some routes and certain air crafts it was great l, other times not. In 2024 I will mostly lean on the EFB whilst flying. However I wouldn’t use it for hard-core role playing as a pilot.

Hopefully Asobo and working title will improve atc in the game.

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I just wish that we were provided with a tool to convert 2020 liveries onto the new models, I love flying the Citations, DA62 or the TBM but I also want to use the paintings I’m used to, not the factory settings
It’s a choice between using the plane that I want (2020) or landing at a somewhat up-to-date airport (2024) and I’m not too happy about it

Also the UI is still catastrophic in places

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I am back after giving MSFS a miss since SU2. I can safely say it hasn’t improved that much. Still buggy and far from what was promised. (Xbox series x and PC)

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It’s the mechanics of ATC that is the problem. The window only shows 4 options at a time, whereas 2020 showed 10. And it is not resizable. This makes it extremely clumsy when searching for an airport in the nearest list, especially in an area with many of them.

And the controller frequently talks over your pilot’s voice, making it hard to catch what they are saying.

Many of the same problems from 2020 still exist, like assigning unattainable altitudes or asking you to climb to some ridiculous altitude when you are descending into an airport.

On the plus side, the controllers and read backs use different voices so it’s easier to keep straight as to who is speaking.

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