Yup, you were bottlnecking badly before the CPU upgrade. The new CPU allowed your GPU to work at full capacity. I’m currently downloading the game. I have a i5 10600k overclocked to 5Ghz and a 2070SUPER overclocked as well. Hopefully I can maintain 60 fps on pretty high settings.
How can OP manage to get 75fps with v-sync turned on and locked to 60fps. Looks a bit strange to me.
You might have a little bit of bottle necking. CPUs have really advanced in the last couple years. The new i7’s, i9’s and even the new i5 10600k would be a solid upgrade from the 8700k.
10900k runs cooler and from the numbers I’ve seen, the 10900k is still better single core than the 8700k.
The 10600k imo is more comparable to the 8700k, both stock and overclocked. + cheaper and newer.
it’s mostly a theory.
no-one has done apples to apples with lets say an 8700k @ 5ghz (protection removed) vs an i9 10900k @ 5ghz.
but obviously, a 10900k has the exact same IPC as an 8700k. (In fact, IPC has remained the same since 6th gen). Therefore, the 8700k will probably beat out the 10900k in single core performance as long as the spectre/meltdown protections are removed, but otherwise the CPU’s are technically identical.
Also, this is about single core performance only. The 8700k is nowhere near the 10900k for multi core.
amazing,
i am learning this sim and how to upgrade.
i am running a i5 lynnfield 760 from 2010, it was fast AF on simX.
it is 2.6 overclocked to 3.8, and is doing ok.
the system i built for simX is what i am using now, but i added a egva 1660 black card. and another 8 gigs of ram, getting me to 12gigs.
really it flys ok. but i am just learning it.
trying to figure out my upgrade path.
beers
I know that until Asobo/Microsoft release some optimisations, then we’re all pretty much stuck with tinkering to see what we can do to increase performance.
I’m generally flying smoothly with 40-60FPS with most settings on high, and with a CPU that is no spring chicken
For what it’s worth, my setup is as follows:
- CPU: 4790K (Hyper threading enabled)
- RAM: 32GB
- GPU:: 1080ti running @1080p
The two things that I do to dramatically increase performance are:
-
Turn off vsync in the sim
ATM it appears to not work correctly.
If, for example you have 40FPS and enable vsync, you wold expect to get 30FPS, but, for reasons unknown, it drops to around 20FPS -
Once MSFS has started
- I launch Task Manager
- Select the Flight Simulator with RMB
- Select Go to details menu item
- Select flightsimulator.exe with RMB
- Select Set affinity
- Unselect CPU 0 & 1
From other posts, I accept that this will not work for everyone, but it works every time for me. I hope it helps some of you pilots out there.
1 Like
I guess I’m conflating the FPS figure with frame times, though when FPS drops it seems to be in association with frame time slow down. I probably shouldn’t be using FPS as a catchall measurement figure. When FS 2020 becomes sluggish and I open Dev mode and show the performance graph and see FPS figure has plummeted, I also see that the Manipulators thread, which usually only takes 3 milliseconds is now taking 30 ms. Similarly, CoherentGTDraw has gone from 0.2 ms to over 70 ms.
It’s here that I become unhappy with how the UI is responding to mouse movement and clicks and a ‘choppier’ cockpit camera. Although super high framerates might not be needed for the world view outside the cockpit, due to perspective and everything moves slowly anyway, the same can’t be said for the view inside the cockpit. If I enable Vsync and lock the sim to 30 fps, everything outside looks acceptable but camera movement inside the cockpit then becomes perceptibly unpleasant to my eyes with a kind of blurring effect as ‘ghosting’ of the faster-moving objects such as instruments occurs. This is one reason why bringing VR to FS 2020 may be problematic and may cause nausea for many. We’ll have to wait and see.
People, I must apology.
What you see in screen shots ( in very little size to be honnest) are not FPS, but Ms. MSI afterburner insist not showing me FPS but Frametime.
Thtat’s totally different. My eyes are not what they were when I was 20 and I missed that, my mistake.
I can’t even run the test again because after my third reinstall in 3 days (never ending story), things are not the same anymore.
The sim is no more on my C drive (PCIe 4 M2), bur on aPCIe 3 M2 separate drive, even if I’m not sure it will change anything.
So I don’t know what the FPS were at the end but surely it was smooth and without any stutter.
Again sorry for that.
[quote=“VeryOldPilot, post:21, topic:216482, full:true”]
@VeryOldPilot and now i get 55FPS on ultra settings in airliners. due to poor optimisation as i stated but you wrote that off instantly.
may i suggest you take a look here
but you wouldnt have it that the game is not optimised,
I run a bit higher all around but have an I9 8 core
With same GPU (RTX 2080 SUper) it runs the same on an I7
The CPU is very under utilized compared to the GPU
check the link in the post before, you will get better performance and better frames
Thank you proving my point that your low FPS was not due to the game being poorly optimized - as you claimed.
I think you find editing java script files in the game to improve performance is indeed the game being very poorly optimised. Think you will find that this proves the game optimisation is the fault. Your arrogance actually makes me laugh. Now
So in accordance with the forum rules we agree to disagree and there is no need for either you or me to be butt-hurt and one of us to childishly resort to insults. Take that helpful advice from a grandmother who has sucessfully dealt children and grandchildren going through their puberty stages - and then back off and ignore my posts if you don’t like them in the future.
I’ll stay by my opinion that a coding that only affects some PC configurations is not poor optimization but instead the failure of a software developer to test his code on every PC configuration. Something that not even Microsoft can do for WINDOWS versions. Happy flying.
@FlipPenguin8929
Just a quick one, I am a (almost) lifelong Mac user and I have just bought a fast windows FS2020 computer, just for MSFS. I am struggling a bit with the msi After Burner, how do I get the overlay in the top left corner with the CPU and GPU data so I can look for the best settings for my setup?
Thanks for your help..
ATTENTION!
Be sure not to use extra windows of the Flightsim set to “float” mode (to drag them to another monitor)!
In this case Afterburner will show wrong fps for the main-monitor (too hight!), which I was trapped of at the first day benchmarking with Afterburner only and hunting for the lost fps for one week…
Always use the built-in fps for comparisons.
I could be going blind here but have a close look at the OP’s FPS counter.. It is not reporting 70-85 fps it is reporting 70-85 ms… it is measuring frame time by the looks of it. 70-85 ms translates to 11-14fps.
Also the FPS limit is set to 60 so how exactly would he be getting more than that?
The fix is really next generation hardware for superb performance and bit of optimisation from Asobo, so rest of us don’t suffer a much.
Right ! in fact I made an “errata corrige” a few post above to explain this fact and to apology 
But maybe with a RTX 3080 those will be real FPS !! 
1 Like