In my opinion the Handcrafted airports are okay but little things like gate numbers and taxiway names printed on the ground (like in eddf) custom jetways and some more things should be added. as an example its very hard to find a gate while flying online because the gate numbers are missing.
Yes please!
So I was exploring the handcrafted airports (I have premium deluxe) and the quality of some of them is quite disappointing.
On looking around LEMD (MAD), Iâve come across a gate that is not even correct.
The markings are incorrect and some of the taxiways are not even the correct colour/surfaceâŠ
Another airport where this is relevant is at EGLL (LHR) does not replicate its real-life counterpart at all. This is shown in the images.
And not to mention, all the other gates around LHR that have the incorrect jetways in comparison to this real life picture:
And finally, to prove itâs not only premium deluxe airports, JFK, a standard edition hand-crafted airport by Asobo also does not have the correct jetways and could be improved a little more in my opinion.
And another incorrect airport layout/design of JFK in the simulator:
All Iâm asking is this, the handcrafted airports actually resemble the airport and not vaguely as they are currently in MSFS 2020. Itâs a half-hearted job completed in my opinion, and I may picky pointing this out but I think it is important, especially if some of us have paid for the premium deluxe version as we canât afford 3rd party payware. I donât expect it to look like real life with the amount of detail, but the airports should be correct and look similar to real life.
If:
- Apron & Taxiway looks
- Incorrect placement/number of jetways
- Incorrect surface markings
Were improved and corrected then it would improve the experience of the simulator massively.
These are only 3 airports I pointed out, and Iâm sure I find say the same problems for most, if not all of the other hand-crafted airports created by Asobo. Please fix this.
Regards,
Totally agree! Some gates at these handcrafted airports donât have any ground markings and I agree that custom Jetways would make it look 10x better in my opinion.
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Thereâs recently been some discussion at Fix the premium airports please! regarding many of the same things.
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This topic is literally so important, I couldnât find a thread similar to mine which is why I made it!
I think it is important that we complain. We paid the extra money for these airports expecting them to actually be good quality, to be usable. Yet instead, in my opinion, it is like they have not even bothered with the airports.
I would rather get a refund for the premium deluxe edition so I can purchase a couple of my favourite payware airports then having some a load of half completed onesâŠ
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Completely agree, I bought Premium Deluxe because it seemed like a good deal: a handful of airports that are better detailed. Turns out I may have to buy these airports anyways.
Thought theyâd fix the most obvious issues by themselves. After all the entire release seemed rushed and they must have been aware of the issues right?
December, 4 months after release and 2 World Updates later there still wasnât a sign of them wanting to fix these, so I reported them.
Another 4 months and they still havenât fixed the reported issues.
Come on, I paid extra for this and instead youâre rushing free world updates?
I think Iâll give them until summer to fix this, and after that Iâm asking for a refund as well. With the money I can buy the specific airports I fly to instead of the 4 handcrafted airports I frequent + a bunch I donât really care about.
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The intended detail is also far below what I was expecting. In Madrid airport for example, I was at the very least expexting the color gradient for the columns. No, they are either yellow or red. ???
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Now they release a small aircraft for 10 bucks. I feel like they very well could have given this to Premium Deluxe? Couldâve made the 90$ expansion (if you bought the 60$ version first) a bit more attractive in the process.
As a Premium Deluxe buyer I feel left behind in the cold.
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It is terrible to hear that they are neglecting this issue. The quality that they advertised is not what we have received.
I understand the frustration of them releasing FREE world updates, especially for the UK where I thought they would fix this issue with LHR but clearly, they do not intend to resolve the issue.
I donât think it is possible to get a refund now as I got this simulator back in December but, hopefully, if we continue to push this issue then theyâll have to resolve it. We are paying customers, not something to ignore the needs ofâŠ
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You should know youâre buying something that is default. A single actually detailed airport can cost as much as the entire extra youâre paying for all of the handcrafted airports and extra aircraft. I see having these ones, as they are, as a huge advantage already, even more considering the final price youâre paying for each. Thatâs more than what you get for many sceneries that are being sold for even higher prices.
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I donât think you understand the point. This is not even just premium deluxe airports, its even a problem with standard ones.
If you like your game how it is then cool, be on your way. But donât come into this forum and say stuff when you specifically have no problems with it.
Some of us bought the premium deluxe version as we donât have money to spend on airport scenery. The least we expect is to actually resemble the airport, not something generic and really, just wrong. We are not expecting it to be perfect, or be exactly like real life as we both know thatâs why companies produce payware to give that experience & level of detail. And to be completely honest with you, I would rather just have the standard edition airports than pay extra with the intention of receiving âhigh-quality hand-crafted airportsâ.
Itâs clear you donât see the issue Iâm addressing here but you canât sit and say that Asobo has done a good job with the hand-crafted airports.
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10/10 response. You told that person gtfo in a subtle way, as you should. Idk why people comment when they have no valid input.
With that being said, I highly agree. I have the standard version though and Iâve not spent a dime on payware airports yet but they could do a better job with the hand-crafted airports.
On the other hand, the game has been out for less than a year and there are a lot of things that they need to focus on so perhaps sometime in the future these things will be rectified. Thanks for posting 
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Would love to see that. The handcrafted ones have some great modelling but the stands generally just let them down. If itâs not the jetways, itâs the taxiways and especially parking spots. Frankfurt for example is simply just missing many yellow lines for parking bays. Heathrow has a taxiway missing completely, just to name a couple. Missing a lot of clutter that could help liven the place up too.
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The reason why I not only included problems with the premium deluxe versions but also with JFK, a standard edition âhand-craftedâ airport is because everyone has the standard edition airports.
Iâve not made this thread for just the benefit of myself, but for all of the other people in this community too.
Like you 2 (@BobbyFuzzy & @biggathebeast ) have said, you are not happy with the current state of the airports, and Iâm sure there are many more people that would say the same.
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I would agree with this on many issues people are complaining about, but the people creating these airports (modelling) vs the people working on physics or AI (coding) are clearly different people. The people that should be working on fixes for the handcrafted airports are currently working on world updates⊠Thatâs whatâs making me mad.
(same goes for the missing airports actually, like Stuttgart and Eindhoven)
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If they can produce world updates, and make the scenery âthe best in the industryâ at the moment, why are they neglecting the airports they made themselvesâŠ
In my opinion, the state of airports is as important as the scenery. If you canât get the full experience at the airport(s) you paid for, then whatâs the point in paying that money for themâŠ
Some handcrafted airports are better than others, I landed at Madrid and the ground textures are quite good. But places like Frankfurt, they hardly put effort in it. So I wish they would show the same love equally across every airport. The thing that shocks me is that some of the standard airports are better than the premiumâŠ
You raise some good points, specifically about the pricing for these and advertisements. Genuine complaints.
However, I donât think itâs Asoboâs job to produce these airports up to high standards. Pretty much for the entirety of flight simulator history itâs been up to third party developers to produce better offerings to where the simulator is lacking, whether it be aircraft, scenery, or airports. The amount of time and resources required to make every airport higher quality would take vast quantities of time, money, and manpower. This could also increase the cost of the simulator to an extraordinary extent.
There are simply too many airports to revamp, because if you do one you have to do them all.
Itâs better to leave tasks like these to third party developers like Aerosoft, FSDT, and Flightbeam. You are more likely to get better representations of airports from these people because they are developing only the scenery, and not a simulator alongside it. Asobo had to make space for third parties, because making everything perfect would require too much time and money.
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Let me translate what you just said, and why thatâs a bad train of thought for Asobo to have: âdonât buy premium, request a refund if you didâ.
Why would I spend 60 bucks on 10 low quality airports and 10 aircraft (half of which are just steam gauge versions of standard aircraft, and some donât work properly)?
Itâs not that the premium versions (30/60$) added functionality to the game. They literally are only extra content. Content that by far is not worth it atm. 60$ I couldâve spend on 4ish airports I care about instead of a bunch of random low quality things, some of which have game breaking issues.
If their official answer is among the lines like yours, Iâm defo refunding those 60 bucks.
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I agree with you @Tjoeker
And icl, what your saying @Alphaless3374 doesnât make any sense whatsoever. Asobo advertised âhigh-quality hand-crafted airportsâ but can you please point out to me which airport is of this quality?
Iâve paid for a game. Iâve paid for what they have advertised. Iâm not getting what they have advertised. Why should I not complain when what I paid for, I didnât get??? Like it doesnât make any senseâŠ
Asobo made these airports. They should not have even bothered with the different editions of the sim if they put hardly any effort into the âhand-crafted airportsâ. However, because they did make them, and theyâre able to produce FREE world updates, whilst completely ignoring other graphical aspects of the game is quite disappointing.
You may say that itâs not Asoboâs job to fix these airports, but letâs face it, it is. They created them, they should look after them. Just like all the other aspects of the game such as the aircraft THEY (Asobo) created.
I mean just look at the first 2 screenshots in MAD!!! THE JETWAY ISNâT EVEN CORRECT!!! And youâre trying to say Asobo shouldnât do anything about it!!!
If I had known the state of some of the airports, I would have definitely just bought the standard edition, putting the money towards a couple of highly detailed, real-life replica airports. And tbh, if I could get a refund right now for the deluxe edition, then I would happily refund and put the excess money towards better airportsâŠ
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Iâve already addressed that you have made genuine complaints about the false advertising. This is true.
I also should clarify that I donât think that Asobo should necessarily disregard airports. They should make it in a way that they tangibly represent their real life counterpart. I donât think jetways are all that important, default scenery in flight simulator has been quite poor for years and I donât see what makes Asobo different. (aside from the false advertising) Each airport can have many variations of jetways and other equipment at the gates, modelling, texturing, and programming each of these would take a lot of time, especially when working on multiple projects for the sim.
I wouldnât expect Asobo to do much about it, recreating each airport would take a lot of time and cost a bit more. I suggest waiting for third parties to develop scenery.