Looking forward to this!
Aiming for a mid August release - brilliant, better start saving up
hopefully makes it to the Xbox
Real T-33 cockpit shown in the inibuilds trailer:
Cockpit by inibuilds shown for about 0.3 seconds of the 11 minutes trailer:
What a shame.
There will be a classic steam gauge cockpit as well.
But agree that a mixed steam + modern version would be better than the all-glass variant.
If they classic steam gauge cockpit is in the style of the Mu-2 we are going to be disgusted.
I donât know they show one cockpit in the video and then model another one. And Iâm 100% sure the cockpit looks horrible because in the whole 11 minute video it is show for less than 1 second.
Restoration jobs by different owners will get different avionics packages. What you see in the screenshot from the video is certainly nothing close to what came from the factory. In fact, even doing an image search for âT-33 Original Cockpitâ will yield several different variations of steam gauge placement. In fact, with so many owners doing so many restorations, Iâd be willing to bet that if you lined up 10 T-33âs side by side, youâd have 10 different panel layouts.
Both type of cockpits were show in the video, with the notation, the you could choose between them. This is how it looks:
Yup and neither looks like the real plane shown in the very same video.
Because the real plane is the ownerâs (Gregory âWiredâ Colyer, whoâs interviewed at length in the video) particular mod. As @tclayton2k points out above, there are probably as many cockpit variants out there as there are airplanes.
I appreciate the classic version but speaking personally, I suspect Iâll get some use out of the all-glass one as well - given that my sense of nostalgia doesnât extend to flying into hillsides in a period-authentic way. A lesson I learned flying the A2A civilian Mustang is that the airplane doesnât stop being a P-51 (or in this case a T-33) just because of whatâs in the panel.
Again, thatâs a personal take. Iâm glad theyâre giving us a choice.
Even when the aircraft was in active service, the branches couldnât standardize on a cockpit layout either. Check out the panel diagram on this site alone.
That top photo of the ârealâ cockpit is a modern adaptation and is almost as far removed from an original T-33 cockpit as the Inibuilds image below.
As has already been said, you wonât find any airworthy T-33s with the same panel layout. All of them have been modified to various degrees.
In this article youâll see a T-33 with a glass cockpit very similar to Inibuilds version:
Iâm super excited about the announcement of the T-33. Itâs one of my favorite jets. Iâm sure Iâll use the classic cockpit most of the time, but itâs awesome to have the option to switch to a modern panel.
This panel looks pretty close to what we had in the Canadian CT-33 from what I rememberâŠbut itâs been a long time since this old gal and I went flying together!
Iâm so excited after this video! SWSâs MSFS aircraft are top-notch, and the modeling looks beautiful here. Love the option to fly an authentic 50âs version and then swap the cockpit to modern instruments for cross-country sightseeing under that beautiful bubble canopy.
And an actual panel:
Essentially identical other than the panel background color and the variations (realistic) in instrument placements. But by all means, it wouldnât be this forum if the pre-release discussion wasnât focused on negativity. Sigh.
As for the glass panel looking different in the interview T-33, do you have the Reno pack? Have you seen the variations in real world planes when theyâre updated with modern avionics? Thereâs not a standard for glass cockpit updates.
This is a Bolivian T-33 panel from 2007:
Also, from the SWS Discord post:
So it sounds like itâs âstudy levelâ instrument/control/engine systems recreation. With guidance from a 3000-hour aerobatic T-33 pilot.
So Iâm gonna be cautiously⊠okay, not even cautiously⊠optimistic. As a 50âs/60âs era jet fan. Iâm psyched.
To say Iâm excited for the release of this aircraft is an understatement, and it put me in a very good mood when I saw the news of this project first thing this morning. Iâm very much looking forward to having such a high quality and detailed T-33/CT-133 in MSFS.
The modern cockpit/instrument panel appears to combine, in a balanced manner, elements of what you see in some of the T-33s and CT-133s flying today, but not necessarily a perfect match to any one aircraft. Thatâs how the cockpit of the A2A âcivilianâ P-51D was modeled as well - it wasnât accurate to any one aircraft, but combined elements together from a number of modern restored examples.
This example, which was restored by Heritage Aero, is the closest Iâve seen to looking like the layout captured by IniBuilds/SWS. You can compare directly to one of the screenshots in this posting: Summer Surprises: Launch of the iniBuilds Premier Aircraft Series - iniBuilds Announcements - iniBuilds Forum
And a T-33A cockpit, configured more/less as it appeared in the 1950s.
If you read the article, there are two variants they will provide. The cockpit you show there is the modern variant. The photo you have is of the classic variant.
Not really, neither the modern or the classic cockpit match the plane shown in the video that has a customized cockpit.