Is the Aviator Edition worth it?

It doesn’t look like any of the extra aircraft included in The Aviator Edition is actually supported by the simulator. All of the Local Legends and Famous Flyers are labeled “not developer approved.” So for those of you who have it what benefits are you getting?

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So for those of you who have it what benefits are you getting?

There’s really only 2 things:

“not developer approved” doesn’t necessarily mean “not-supported”.

YMV for what is working and what isn’t I’ve flown a few 2020 aircraft in 2024 with basically 0 major issues. Obvious stuff like the EFB not importing into the planes avionics is expected. But loading+flying around, and doing everything I could be doing in 2020 more or less works with what I’ve tried. I’m sure there’s probably some nuances here and there that don’t carry over but I haven’t seen any issues when flying 2020 planes in 2024

there’s no promise (I’m aware of) these get updated… but they could

If your willing to suck up/risk possible quirks, or just plainly want a plane or two that was released before, then why not? If they get full support later, then cool its a win/win.

PS. Its possible buying aviators back-ports all of these to 2020, but I have not confirmed or really cared as I’m fully on 2024 for better or worse.

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The Aviator edition aircraft are bare bones ports of the 2020 version. They don’t have the new 2024 features. Many are in varying states of janky disrepair. If you want a lot cheap planes for casual flights, you might get use out of it. If you’re expecting a premium quality addon though, probably not.

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If you’re good with the quality of first party aircraft and you don’t own many of them, yea, I’d say it definitely is. Some don’t work well in 2024 yet, but they have promised to update them. I already owned more than half of them so didn’t buy it.

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Wow you guys are very forgiving, or maybe just rich. :money_mouth_face:
For a $200 package I’m reading descriptive words such as;

“Your Mileage May Very.”
Risk
“janky disrepair”
Cheap
“Some don’t work”

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At $2.34 USD per additional aircraft, I find that the value is there already even without the aircraft being 2024-native. I think provided you have the patience to wait for many of these aircraft to be updated to 2024-native (I don’t expect that they all will be), I think it’s certainly worth it. But, as always, “worth” is subjective.

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It’s a strange situation.

As @Zadma said, the price per aircraft is extremely low, but it’s the list of however… that is the issue.

Most of the simpler aircraft work as they should do. The 207 and the V35B (maybe the Twin Beech, too) have the old Asobo GNS units in them that are not compatible with the current sim. If you’re good with no GPS flight plans, then they will work.

The more complex aircraft have some major issues. The MU, 225, Do 31 seem to have controls that don’t work and other issues that are probably WASM-related.

It’s basically a dice roll as to what will be okay and what won’t.

The unstated is the gall MS has to sell these to us like this, and in the most expensive digital version of the sim, to boot.

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The old Asobo GPS are compatible with the sim provided you Send to Avionics before loading the flight.

For those that paid attention to all the little details, dev streams, etc. it was known pre-launch that this would more-or-less be the state of these aircraft. As a result, my feelings on the value of the Aviator Edition might differ from others as I knew what I was getting when I preordered it six months ago. That, however, does not excuse them packing all of these as an edition of MSFS 2024 knowing that many aircraft are not cleanly compatible with MSFS 2024.

If they could travel back in time, I think it would have been a great call to not release this edition with launch, but save it as a new edition available with some special release of the sim when all the aircraft were ready - a la “40th Anniversary Edition”.

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Yes I’ve noticed the issue with the avionics, they won’t follow flight plans and when it does, the Direct To: option doesn’t work.
Any way I didn’t buy it because I already own around %90 of them.

Seems like a good choice if you own that much already. But what version would you buy the digital or “boxed” version?

The V35 works fine, I’ve flown a number of flights using GPS/Autopilot. I can’t speak to the others. I don’t recall a problem with the 207, but… I can’t say for sure what kind of flight I did. I just know I’ve flown it in 2024.

I would guess most of us didn’t buy it, but we know something about the aircraft in there as we have some of them already :slight_smile:

I got the Premium Deluxe because I had too many to justify it. It was $70 extra and I was missing 7 aircraft. Problem was, I wasn’t sure I cared to even try 3 or 4. If I’d wanted them all that much I’d already have bougght them.

That’s interesting.

When I’ve loaded into the aircraft it’s unable to see any navdata I try to access via the GNS.

However, I learned this today, and have yet to try it:

Is that what you’ve done?

It’s pretty annoying that the Asobo GNS still rears its ugly head, regardless. I would miss the functionality of the WT version.

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Yeah, I haven’t tested it on 100% of the aircraft in the sim obviously, but many of the 2024-native aircraft launched with V1 (2020) of the Garmin avionics suites, even some in Career mode. As long as you loaded it from the World Map, it behaved the same as it did in 2020 (which also allowed you upload flight plans from the World Map). The only thing it can’t do is imports/edits on-the-fly, that is a 2024-native feature.

I could be totally wrong about the Aviator Edition aircraft though, I guess - I’ll do some testing this evening and report back.

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Nah, that’s through the EFB isn’t it? It’s not worth trying to use imo. It seems pretty broken and I have to leave VR to access it in sim.

Even from the map, it seems broken though. Maybe I’m missing something? It says I have a fraction of the fuel I actually have. I don’t see a way to change it though. I can remove a copilot, but there’s one in the aircraft there anyway…

And in more relation to this question - if I send my plan to avionics, it ALWAYS sets me up with IFR which I almost never want.

Are they available to buy individually yet in 2024? If so do Premium Deluxe owners still get the 33% discount?

I haven’t bought 2024 yet and I am still unsure which edition to get but at the moment I am leaning towards the Deluxe. I own 2020 PD and the additional aircraft in 2024 Premium don’t interest me.

A lot of the Aviator edition aircraft look interesting but I am not sure how many of them I would use often enough to make it worthwhile buying.

As of now the Aviator Edition aircraft are for sale individually through 2020, and then should become streamable in 2024.

I don’t believe MS is putting any 1st-party aircraft in the Marketplace that are not 2024-native at this point, so it will be a while (I believe) before any are there, and some may never get there. Even some of the 1s-party aircraft that ARE 2024-native have been withheld from the Marketplace right now. At least one of which is because it is, in Jorg’s words, “there’s a reason it is not a payware version because were not proud of what it is right now.”

Now you can buy the individual products now, it’s probably not worth it unless you want to fly all the aircraft.
But i will always buy the most expensive version just because i value and support the sim.

What about the ATR, is that available? Although it included in the aviator pack it was always a bit different as they designated it as an ‘expert’ level aircraft. I thought they may get that ready for 2024 as more of a priority than the normal FF/LL aircraft.

It does seem a strange situation where they are selling aircraft in the highest package of 2024 but deem them not ready to sell individually.

The use of external developers seemed to be a good idea in some ways but it does mean that they probably have to go back to those developers with new arrangements and payments to have any updates or bug fixing done.

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The ATR is the 2020 version (there’s no walk around for example), and there are some issues (from some avionics issues, which I couldn’t systematically reproduce, to some obvious texture issues, particularly in the cockpit, and some weird things like this)

Unfortunately this leaves us without any fully working mid sized turboprop, since the Saab turboprop has serious issues, particularly between the FMC and EFIS.