So in weird but good news, after my last post, I tried another flight with the Warrior, and it was awful, one of the worst for the windshield wiping VSI. So I decided to reinstall and try big brother Arrow III, also not a good experience at all.
But then I decided I liked too many other things about the Warrior, and someone in their forum gave me a tip to ‘cheat’ the system. I couldn’t get the cheat to work, but for some reason, with the Arrow III installed, the little Warrior works almost perfectly, windshield wiping gone, just some adjustments on the trim wheel, and life is grand, for 2 flights so far anyway.
What about this ‘up and down’ behavior?
Haven’t seen anything like this in any other aircraft.
Tried other planes with same flight settings, they smoothly raise and lower the nose a bit.
But these ones, bought the bundle, they just ‘jump’
Any ideas?
I found that with a hardware AP VS down key I can reduce the climb and bring it to zero. This works until my next flight. Not sure why VS commands a 700 ft climb anytime I press Alt hold.
And, if I deactivate state saving this does not happen.
Suffered from this myself, specially the Turbo Arrow and the Warrior. See the pitch jerk topic on their forum. After i bought the C337 from Carenado that plane had the same issue.
However, SU10 largely fixed this due how thermals are done. Now for me they fly as they should again.
If SU10 did not work, a workaround is to fly with non live weather, but use a preset.
Turbo Arrow is not remotely pitch sensitive - in fact takes a fair bit of movement to do anything in pitch. Then again it was like that before SU10, so I presume what was fixed was some rogue controller…
Thermals are still horrible ,similar to the vid I posted in the Hawk thread, just a bit easier to deal with at 1/4 the speed
In the Warrior always switch off the AP as part of your shutdown before exiting a session. Quitting with the AP running will cause all sorts of unpredictable randomness because of state saving next session.
Also it is better to leave the AP off until you are airborne for some reason.
Hi, I am experiencing a couple of issues with the warrior, Firstly the performance seems unrealistic, flying from my home airport to do circuits I can reach circuit height much earlier than in real life, is this common? (also possible that the performance of my knackered old rental in real life has degraded significantly)
I also found that when taxying with a moderate 12-15knt crosswind hitting the portside, it took almost full right rudder to keep a straight track, felt like taxying a free castoring taildragger, not an aircraft with nosewheel steering!
Finally, as a small point, turning off the fuel pump on pre start checks causes the fuel pressure to return to zero?
Regarding the first point, there have been several users in this thread that have mentioned that it seems overpowered at the moment. Hopefully this is looked at by JF at some point because it is unrealistic in its current form and takes a little away from what is an otherwise fantastic rendition of the Warrior.
Real life flyer of the Warrior 2… Yes, I have said that for awhile it is overpowered in the climb. The cruise performance is pretty spot on. I have never in real life been able to climb 1000 FPM or more. The crosswind issue is there in most airplanes, thats a sim issue. Sometimes on takeoff in a light crosswind you cannot keep the airplane straight.
Yes, the fuel pressure gauge should stay up, but it does not!
Also, a visual issue? Warrior 2s did not have a bench seat in the rear
I climb at 1000 fpm from a 1000’ alt runway (KASH) all the time for the first 500-700 ft of climb at least. I’ll check for real next time I fly. Granted, I fly alone with fuel at the tabs max typically. Certainly slower with a load. These are PA-28-161 Warrior III’s I’m talking about, though we do have a couple of II’s in the club I fly with.
Just flight need to implement the New Prop + full CFD + soft body simulation for the Piper Warrior and Arrows. The Cessna 172 with these (including WBSim version) have much better flight models. The pipers when first released were very good with Just Flight’s own modelling but if we want our Piper planes with much better flight modelling then Just Flight should develop all GA planes with the New Prop + Full CFD + soft body simulation. I hope at least the Tomahawk when released will have this.
Is the general consensus of the flight model positive? I ask because an obvious thing to practice are fanstops and EFATO’s but according the the sim, im pretty much Chuck Yeager (and im not) with what feels like far more time than 1000fpm estimates at best glide
Only flew a Warrior IRL once or twice but it seems pretty good overall. Definitely has the real life Warrior tendency to acquire all the glide characteristics of a house brick with full flaps deployed and no power.
